Questions & Mysteries So KOH is not AdvCoC attack. Did King lose to CoA attack?
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Oda did the same for Luffy. He's just using unconsciously
Imagine it like in the real world. To figure out how to create the wheel probably took decades or years. Once it was created other talented people could learn how to do it themselves in months or weeks.
And of course, just like there are some people more naturally talented at making great wheels, Luffy and Zoro are also more talented regarding haki than most of the OP world. They all still need good tutors though otherwise the process would take a long time.
Can you prove that KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC attack unconsciously? Is this stated in the manga?
The new revelation is Zoro used KOH. Then later he's wondering how to coat his sword with AdvCoC. This alone debunks that KOH is AdvCoC attack. How is Zoro wondering how to use AdvCoC if few chapters beforehand he had already used AdvCoC attack i.e. KOH?
KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC attack unconsciously is a massive claim to refute what's stated in this chapter.
The new revelation is Zoro used KOH. Then later he's wondering how to coat his sword with AdvCoC. This alone debunks that KOH is AdvCoC attack. How is Zoro wondering how to use AdvCoC if few chapters beforehand he had already used AdvCoC attack i.e. KOH?
KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC attack unconsciously is a massive claim to refute what's stated in this chapter.
Luffy literally wondering how to use Ryuo despite Hyo said he had it, he just unconsciously used it at the dangerous experience. Luffy at that time can't use it with ease, just like Zoro.
Again, Zoro can use AdvCoC he just can't control it or even used it with ease.
On KoH mode, Basically we can assume some attack on KoH isn't imbued with CoC ( most likely because there is no Green Flame ) and some imbued with CoC ( because there is Green Flames and Haki Trails ).
The mistake here for lot of people and you are always thought On KoH mode Zoro always used AdvCoC attack, when there is no direct indication or confirmation on it.
Basically thinking Egghead G5 Luffy always used AdvCoC because He used it on Kaido at Wano
And this discussion isn't going to over cuz Luffy did Attack Summers with AdvCoC, and yet he still alive lol.
Again, Zoro can use AdvCoC he just can't control it or even used it with ease.
On KoH mode, Basically we can assume some attack on KoH isn't imbued with CoC ( most likely because there is no Green Flame ) and some imbued with CoC ( because there is Green Flames and Haki Trails ).
The mistake here for lot of people and you are always thought On KoH mode Zoro always used AdvCoC attack, when there is no direct indication or confirmation on it.
Basically thinking Egghead G5 Luffy always used AdvCoC because He used it on Kaido at Wano
And this discussion isn't going to over cuz Luffy did Attack Summers with AdvCoC, and yet he still alive lol.
We know Luffy used internal destruction unconsciously because Hyou confirmed it. Who did confirm that Zoro used AdvCoC unconsciously in KOH?
We cannot assume that's headcannon. You need a statement from the manga verbatim that KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC attack unconsciously.
There's also no direct indication that KOH is AdvCoC attack either. If KOH is AdvCoC attack then Zoro should not question how to use AdvCoC because KOH is already AdvCoC attack.
We cannot assume that's headcannon. You need a statement from the manga verbatim that KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC attack unconsciously.
There's also no direct indication that KOH is AdvCoC attack either. If KOH is AdvCoC attack then Zoro should not question how to use AdvCoC because KOH is already AdvCoC attack.
The time Zoro said " I had conquerors haki? " when Gyaban literally said Zoro seems quite ease with it ( Using CoC ) Then Gyaban Angry with him because he can't control it and knew about it despite Luffy even said that his CoC been Oozing for god knows how long,
literally confirms that Zoro using AdvCoC even on KoH uncounsciously lol.
Did u missed that?
U missed the entire point of Zoro using KoH, literally when he first used it, he literally let All his haki flowing out on him without controlling or stabilized it.
And with this unconciously Zoro using AdvCoC haki.
Zoro is wondering how to used it, because he literally can't control it with ease. The time he can used it is when he letting his all out haki.
Isn't that simple?
Zoro literally knocked out all Wano Fodders while using KOH lol, what u mean u need manga statement while Shanks with Kamusari also done knocked out Kidd Fodders
literally confirms that Zoro using AdvCoC even on KoH uncounsciously lol.
Did u missed that?
U missed the entire point of Zoro using KoH, literally when he first used it, he literally let All his haki flowing out on him without controlling or stabilized it.
And with this unconciously Zoro using AdvCoC haki.
Zoro is wondering how to used it, because he literally can't control it with ease. The time he can used it is when he letting his all out haki.
Isn't that simple?
Zoro literally knocked out all Wano Fodders while using KOH lol, what u mean u need manga statement while Shanks with Kamusari also done knocked out Kidd Fodders
If Gyaban said Zoro seems quite ease with using CoC. Then what that means?
If Gyaban angry at Zoro because he can't control or knew he had it despite he said Zoro used it with ease, then what that means?
It literally means Zoro using it Unconsciously lol
Garp and Roger literally let All their Haki to even defeat DR Xebec with AdvCoC lol
If Gyaban angry at Zoro because he can't control or knew he had it despite he said Zoro used it with ease, then what that means?
It literally means Zoro using it Unconsciously lol
Garp and Roger literally let All their Haki to even defeat DR Xebec with AdvCoC lol
U literally contradicting ur own self
First u said Zoro can use CoC then Zoro can't control CoC.
make it make sense.
If Zoro can use CoC whenever he wanted, then he didn't question the part where he had Conq haki lol
Did u forget that Zoro when he first tapped in KoH the Wano Fodders are knocked out?
If thats not CoC then what is?
If Shanks Kamusari Knocked out Kidd Fodders, if thats not AdvCoC then what is?
its literally not rocket science, its only basic logic.
Zoro unconsciously using AdvCoC despite having CoC.
This Chapter basically confirms it, that Zoro had CoC able to used AdvCoC but can't used it with ease and control it because he didn't let his all out haki and now practicing to used it without KoH or even letting all his haki.
Simple
I feel like i'm talking to Stealthblack, lerkek, Skysanji etc Good lord
First u said Zoro can use CoC then Zoro can't control CoC.
make it make sense.
If Zoro can use CoC whenever he wanted, then he didn't question the part where he had Conq haki lol
Did u forget that Zoro when he first tapped in KoH the Wano Fodders are knocked out?
If thats not CoC then what is?
If Shanks Kamusari Knocked out Kidd Fodders, if thats not AdvCoC then what is?
its literally not rocket science, its only basic logic.
Zoro unconsciously using AdvCoC despite having CoC.
This Chapter basically confirms it, that Zoro had CoC able to used AdvCoC but can't used it with ease and control it because he didn't let his all out haki and now practicing to used it without KoH or even letting all his haki.
Simple
I feel like i'm talking to Stealthblack, lerkek, Skysanji etc Good lord
At ease means Zoro is calm about it. I retract what I posted. Then when Gaban said Zoro cannot control his CoC only further strengthens the argument that Zoro cannot control his CoC as AdvCoC.
Wano fodders getting knocked out is not a prove Zoro unconsciously can use AdvCoC in KOH. All that proves is Zoro leaked CoC so wano fodders got knocked out. There's zero proofs after that Zoro uncosciously coated his sword with AdvCoC in KOH because nothing confirms this in the manga.
Did Zoro KOH knock out any fodders? Do you have panels supporting this?
This chapter confirms KOH is not AdvCoC attack. It doesn't make sense why Zoro is wondering how to use AdvCoC after he used KOH if KOH is really AdvCoC attack,
I'm still asking where is it stated KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC unconsciously like how Hyou confirmed or stated that Luffy used internal destruction unconsciously. Are you going to answer or dodge?
You keep saying that to use AdvCoC Zoro needs to let out his haki. Where is it stated in the manga? You're making a bunch of claims but you cannot provide panels to support them.
Wano fodders getting knocked out is not a prove Zoro unconsciously can use AdvCoC in KOH. All that proves is Zoro leaked CoC so wano fodders got knocked out. There's zero proofs after that Zoro uncosciously coated his sword with AdvCoC in KOH because nothing confirms this in the manga.
Did Zoro KOH knock out any fodders? Do you have panels supporting this?
This chapter confirms KOH is not AdvCoC attack. It doesn't make sense why Zoro is wondering how to use AdvCoC after he used KOH if KOH is really AdvCoC attack,
I'm still asking where is it stated KOH is Zoro using AdvCoC unconsciously like how Hyou confirmed or stated that Luffy used internal destruction unconsciously. Are you going to answer or dodge?
You keep saying that to use AdvCoC Zoro needs to let out his haki. Where is it stated in the manga? You're making a bunch of claims but you cannot provide panels to support them.
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Are you Rootbeer in disguise ?
Also this whole topic is debunked before it you even wrote it... everyone knew Zoro had no idea he was using it without knowing... Why do you think the panels of Gaban and Luffy with Zoro was for?
Or Kaido after Asura? All Zoro knew up to that point when meeting Gaban is "use everything" without knowing what is what.
Also this whole topic is debunked before it you even wrote it... everyone knew Zoro had no idea he was using it without knowing... Why do you think the panels of Gaban and Luffy with Zoro was for?
Or Kaido after Asura? All Zoro knew up to that point when meeting Gaban is "use everything" without knowing what is what.
