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What difficulty will Zoro v. SSJ2 Sommers be?


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Ngl Elbaph is super mid if you don't count the peak Rocks flashback.
Rocks flashback which initially pissed everyone off because it came at inappropriate time: when main fight of Luffy + Loki vs Imunko was about to start

Now looking back at it, the flashback was still much better than anticipated Imu or Imunko fights
Telling how mid Imu actually is :josad:
 
Oda is a such a funny writer especially when writing fights.

Previously Omen + Gram Sommers easily overpower Zoro KOH strongest move (he used so far)
Which give an idea that Buff Sommers is a serious challenge to Zoro and certainly above Zoro previously beaten opponent that he beat with the same move aka King.

Now Zoro casually blitz, cut him up and clown him again.
Buff Sommers turn into pre-buff bummers, the regen merchant all of a sudden.
And it's the same Zoro he overpowers 5 minutes ago without gaining power up yet
:luuh:
 
Oda is a such a funny writer especially when writing fights.

Previously Omen + Gram Sommers easily overpower Zoro KOH strongest move (he used so far)
Which give an idea that Buff Sommers is a serious challenge to Zoro and certainly above Zoro previously beaten opponent that he beat with the same move aka King.

Now Zoro casually blitz, cut him up and clown him again.
Buff Sommers turn into pre-buff bummers, the regen merchant all of a sudden.
And it's the same Zoro he overpowers 5 minutes ago without gaining power up yet
:luuh:
It's not difficult when you realize green flames on blades doesn't always mean coC.

It's green flames plus thick black lightning.
 

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This is real post time zoro level if oda didn't nerf him with negative iq:seriously:
Post time would be better: Zoro would kill hody with one attack and punk hazard will finish after zoro use wifi haki. Then DR zoro would fight against Fugitore (first time he'd lose but in the segond he'd win), and finally yonko arc big meme and crydo will lose agaisnt him. But oda had to give us goffy piece:seriously::seriously::seriously:
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Not gonna lie to you broski pending any additional gifts from daddy Imu, Sommers doesn't stand a chance in hell againt current Zoro.
Not like he did prior tbh. Only ting saving his bum ass was his invicbility but now that Zoro has the counter to that, oooh boi :risisweat:
He doesn't have it in his locker to put Zoro on the ropes as he's getting absolutely raped in CQC already, so regardless of how strong Gram is, all of that is lost on Sommers as he's unable to even tag Zoro in CQC.

On Kiringham the only prayer he has against Sanji atm is how hax Loginus actually is, coz otherwise he'd just gonna get kicked around till Sanji awakens CoC.

I honestly don't know if we ever seen an opponent put in such a pitful performance against one of the M3 before.
See, the thing is, hasn't Sommers already tagged Zoro in CQC? We see him react to, clash with and smack down King of Hell Zoro earlier in the fight, then when we cut back to the fight Sommers is hyper confident, and Zoro seems ro have taken damage and lost his face mask (while also getting "trapped" in the thorns). So he SHOULD be capable of tagging Zoro, its just that Oda (for some God forsaken reason) felt the need to kill any hype he got for that by having what is SEEMINGLY a weaker Zoro than the one Sommers was handling quite well immediately overwhelm him. Lol.

Rather than Omen Sommers being too weak to do ANYTHING to Zoro, it just feels like Oda is in too much of a rush to hype up his protagonists quickly without giving the villains time to really dominate and make the fight feel interesting when the protagonist inevitably turns the tables. Its also something I noticed he has been doing weirdly consistently with Celesiral Dragons. Perhaps his own personal bias for kicking the shit out of these scumbags is getting the better of him, so he doesn't let them win for too long. 😅

And I'm semi-serious about that. Remember in Egghead, rhat one volume cover where his initial drawing was of spider demon Saturn chasing down Bonney and Kuma, and then partway through the time lapse we see hum totally switch gears and make it much more wholesome?
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This may sound out of pocket but I think alot of us have atleast need to have a semi- apology to @Rootbeer.

What he most likely us correct on is that even though koh mode is coC related, zoro isn't always using advanced coC in that state. He sometimes is mostly just using regular coC to buff his armament haki already coated on his blades.

When the lighting associated with king of hell mode is thick and large is when advanced coC is actually being used
 
This may sound out of pocket but I think alot of us have atleast need to have a semi- apology to @Rootbeer.

What he most likely us correct on is that even though koh mode is coC related, zoro isn't always using advanced coC in that state. He sometimes is mostly just using regular coC to buff his armament haki already coated on his blades.

When the lighting associated with king of hell mode is thick and large is when advanced coC is actually being used
Zoro doesn’t choose whether he is or isn’t, Enma does
 
Not gonna lie to you broski pending any additional gifts from daddy Imu, Sommers doesn't stand a chance in hell againt current Zoro.
Not like he did prior tbh. Only ting saving his bum ass was his invicbility but now that Zoro has the counter to that, oooh boi :risisweat:
He doesn't have it in his locker to put Zoro on the ropes as he's getting absolutely raped in CQC already, so regardless of how strong Gram is, all of that is lost on Sommers as he's unable to even tag Zoro in CQC.

On Kiringham the only prayer he has against Sanji atm is how hax Loginus actually is, coz otherwise he'd just gonna get kicked around till Sanji awakens CoC.

I honestly don't know if we ever seen an opponent put in such a pitful performance against one of the M3 before.
i'm not sure why oda even brought sommers and killingham here if they're just going to be handed out multiple boosts from imu
at that point just have it be a different HK that's actually strong enough to match zoro and sanji with little to no boosts from imu
 
If you really think about it it makes sense.

Koh is associated with coC. However in some instances only regular coC is being used to enhanced his armament haki coated swords.

When the lighting is huge, it's zoro using advanced coC on his blades.

I am not saying that zoro isn't using coC when using king of hell. All i am saying is that not in every instance is it ADVANCED COC ALL THE TIME
 
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