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What difficulty will Zoro v. SSJ2 Sommers be?


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Elder Lee Hung

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if akainu and others have it (ofc they have it) are they roaches to?
Yes. I have said for years now, I dread the day Oda reveals that the Admirals are also CoC roaches

It's the contrary lol. The worse OP gets the more it appeals to the normies. The past few years have probably been the most successful in Oda's life. Forums where the places where quality discussions took place and that coincidentally started dying a few yrs ago exactly when OP secured a foothold in the west. They just love the slop.
One Piece sales have been on the decline for years now so I’m not sure how you would even gauge this lmfao

One Piece has struggled to crack the monthly top ten best selling manga for years at this point.
 
people shouldnt be suprised cuz when conqueror haki was first revealed garp told us is genetics

it wouldnt be speical if it wasnt genetics/chosen one otherwise everyone can get it
On that argument I had the counters
It would be better if someone who works harder than anyone said talent also possessed CoC.
Cuz we see the character development from being Weak to Strong.
The amount of bs powerup like suddenly turns out he is the chosen one and some powerhouse family are gonna ruin people who really like sum development on character.
Hence why I like Luffy mostly Pre-Timeskip
 



like mihawk, harald and garp all told us conqueror is genetics
idk why people are suprised
This has been a known thing since forever

I also think it’s a little silly that One Piece of all things is critiqued for certain characters having genetic advantages

I’m not a big fan of the concept but this also applies to almost every shonen ever

In Naruto most of the strong characters are from a clan or have a kekkei genkai

In Bleach Ichigo’s claim to fame is his bloodline (along with some experimentation).

In JJK Gege doesn’t shy away from genetics creating a rift between the good, the great, and the godly. You could never approach the realm of Special Grade, let alone Gojo or Sukuna without being born with a ridiculous amount of CE, a crazy CE trait, or an insane cursed technique (and you really need at least 2 of the 3)

Even in Demon Slayer this isn’t necessarily a rule but a lot of the strongest characters were born with absurd natural gifts. The strongest pillar was just born with absurd physical strength and gifts (STW), while the Mist Pillar became one of the strongest slayers in history at 14(?) because he’s descended from the strongest slayer (he had only trained for what… a couple months canonically?)

The strongest character in Demon Slayer history was essentially born to be the strongest. He came out of the womb with the Slayer Mark, See Through World, everything that other slayers worked their entire (short) lives to achieve

My Hero is the same thing as JJK. You’re either born with a good quirk or you’re not and there are huge gaps between them. You can be born with a top tier quirk like warping, explosions, mastery over ice and fire, etc or your “power” is that your head is a Stop Sign

The list goes on. Very few anime stray away from genetics creating absurd gaps between characters

If you don’t like it then you’re in the wrong place because Shonen is eugenics central
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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So Oda is further reinforcing the narrative that you can’t train conqueror’s Haki, and all CoC roaches are just gene merchants born with the plot Haki lmfao

I would love to see Oda’s angels defend this and explain to me how Oda isn’t a genetic supremacist, he literally made the plot Haki the one that you can only be born with and cannot train, LOL

Stuff like this is the reason One Piss will not be remembered after EOS, this will be Game of Thrones all over again where the series ends and no one ever talks about it again, with respect to say how awful the ending was

They will give One Piece a “Boruto” style trash series designed to keep milking money from the few idiots left alive still dumb enough to get baited into spending money on this crap, and One Piece will fall into Dragon Ball Super Hell, a fate Lolda brought upon himself

Mark my words, no one will remember this series once it ends lmfao.
@Logiko curious as to your take in particular.

Nazi and fascist ideology in general is centered around the idea that some people are simply born better than others, and nothing can be done about that. This is the exact ideology Oda is reinforcing in his manga. Some people are simply born better then others, and there’s nothing that can be done about it, some people are simply born superior by virtue of their genetics and/or random chance.

It turns out all of Oda’s communist larping was purely aesthetic and in actuality Oda’s geneticist ideology rivals the worst of them lol. Oda is as much a leftist as Hitler was, One Piece was a fascist manga all along.
 
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