Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1195 Spoilers Discussion

[Roo]

Oh yeah he's really invested in there progress he's seen in Usopp LMAO

For the record, Jinbe is fourth strongest. He's not gotten any stronger in all the time we've seen him and in the OP world he joined what, three weeks ago?

It’s not mean to be a literal powerscaling measurement by franky. Sanji wonders why the HKs were easy and franky just reminds him the entire crew has gotten much stronger

if you treat like a conversation it’s easier to understand

 

[Shiroyru]

Sommers >> Killingham

 

[Fn Lucci]

That was the funniest CoC Sanji joke I've seen on this thread and would be the pure peak of irony in this manga

I think it'd be pretty amazing storytelling. The guy who was rejected and bullied for being weak and ineffectual falls under the wing of traditional manly man Zeff. He does what he can to be accepted and projects heterosexuality in the most ridiculous, obnoxious ways at every turn. Somehow he still gravitates to Bon and Iva

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He managed to injure Sanji, and doesn’t even have any summons helping him out. MMA Zaza is currently holding up the entire Giant Warrior Pirates, including Dorry and Brogy

i find it funny that these people ignore gunko defeating jinbe easily despite jinbe having back up from like 3 or 4 mid tiers and killingham overpowering sanji just to spread an agenda

 

[Shiroyru]

One would hope that the Omen boost + special weapon could do AT LEAST that.

Sommers didn’t do shit to Zoro, and Sommers wasn’t nerfed like Killingham is

 

[bennbeckman]

I think it'd be pretty amazing storytelling. The guy who was rejected and bullied for being weak and ineffectual falls under the wing of traditional manly man Zeff. He does what he can to be accepted and projects heterosexuality in the most ridiculous, obnoxious ways at every turn. Somehow he still gravitates to Bon and Iva

If this is the case the spoiler chapter that reveals that would get over 1000 pages like the Wano days. It would be a massacre in the forum.

 

[Shiroyru]

i find it funny that these people ignore gunko defeating jinbe easily despite jinbe having back up from like 3 or 4 mid tiers and killingham overpowering sanji just to spread an agenda

Tbh a big part of the problem is that Oda goes way over the top with making gag characters like Sommers look much weaker than they should be, just for the sake of some (not very funny) comedy. I mean how tf does Sommers go from casually blocking a KoH Dragon Damnation to getting casually treated like a training dummy by Zoro? Why does he no longer have the reaction speed to block and parry Zoro’s attacks? Was Zoro just randomly moving at only like 10% of his normal speed when he was using his strongest known attack, which costs a lot of Haki for him to use?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It’s not mean to be a literal powerscaling measurement by franky. Sanji wonders why the HKs were easy and franky just reminds him the entire crew has gotten much stronger

if you treat like a conversation it’s easier to understand

The entire crew hasn't gotten stronger. Don't you remember that they don't get stronger between islands? You're just trying to push your shitty zenkai boost powercreep nonsense on us.

 

[Fn Lucci]

If this is the case the spoiler chapter that reveals that would get over 1000 pages like the Wano days. It would be a massacre in the forum.

As an ally, I wish Oda had the guts. But he'd totally get death threats lol

 

[Shiroyru]

The entire crew hasn't gotten stronger. Don't you remember that they don't get stronger between islands? You're just trying to push your shitty zenkai boost powercreep nonsense on us.

I wonder how powercreep deniers like @ConquistadoR and @Veku rationalize Hajrudin’s performance? Are the SHs, the main characters of the story, the only ones not allowed to experience powercreep?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Tbh a big part of the problem is that Oda goes way over the top with making gag characters like Sommers look much weaker than they should be, just for the sake of some (not very funny) comedy. I mean how tf does Sommers go from casually blocking a KoH Dragon Damnation to getting casually treated like a training dummy by Zoro? Why does he no longer have the reaction speed to block and parry Zoro’s attacks? Was Zoro just randomly moving at only like 10% of his normal speed when he was using his strongest known attack, which costs a lot of Haki for him to use?

because oda doesn't know how to write fights anymore so he keeps flipping between zoro being on the defense and being on the offense
he's doing anything he can to make the fights seem interesting, he even wrote in a shitty flashback where ivankov tells sanji he needs conq haki for some reason

 

[Fn Lucci]

The entire crew hasn't gotten stronger. Don't you remember that they don't get stronger between islands? You're just trying to push your shitty zenkai boost powercreep nonsense on us.

He's mad in a roundabout way that Law doesn't have what it takes to stop these dumb ass characters. You'll see him pipe up constantly when Sanji (NOT Zoro) succeeds against them even though there is like a 95% chance Sanji uses CoC in the next chapter or two

 

[fanboy]

If we don’t see Zoro stab Sommer’s heart, then we can assume it’s a fake out death.

 

[Roo]

The entire crew hasn't gotten stronger. Don't you remember that they don't get stronger between islands? You're just trying to push your shitty zenkai boost powercreep nonsense on us.

Substantial power creeps aren’t a thing, there’s a reason why franky got a cola boost instead

 

[Doggo]

Sommers didn’t do shit to Zoro, and Sommers wasn’t nerfed like Killingham is

Yeah.....but you are forgetting a tiny weensy bitty detail, aren't you?
Also, we've had Z-E-R-O statements about how or even if having the nightmares out nerf killingham in any shape or form.
Classic headcanon

 

[bennbeckman]

As an ally, I wish Oda had the guts. But he'd totally get death threats lol

It would be absolute pandemonium. He'd definitely get death threats and they'd try to cancel him at the same time lol

 

[soupongo]

Tbh a big part of the problem is that Oda goes way over the top with making gag characters like Sommers look much weaker than they should be, just for the sake of some (not very funny) comedy. I mean how tf does Sommers go from casually blocking a KoH Dragon Damnation to getting casually treated like a training dummy by Zoro? Why does he no longer have the reaction speed to block and parry Zoro’s attacks? Was Zoro just randomly moving at only like 10% of his normal speed when he was using his strongest known attack, which costs a lot of Haki for him to use?

It's actually insane that Oda low-key flanderized Sommers. He was always a coward who who over reacted obviously, but all the crying and stuff is pretty overdone. I think it all started with the chapter where he was going to make the kids fall off the cliff with their mothers. Oda really wanted to double down on the torture.

 

[Shiroyru]

It's actually insane that Oda low-key flanderized Sommers. He was always a coward who who over reacted obviously, but all the crying and stuff is pretty overdone. I think it all started with the chapter where he was going to make the kids fall off the cliff with their mothers. Oda really wanted to double down on the torture.

You now know what it feels like to be a Meme fan (who was obviously stronger than her actual feats suggest)

 

[Shiroyru]

Yeah.....but you are forgetting a tiny weensy bitty detail, aren't you?
Also, we've had Z-E-R-O statements about how or even if having the nightmares out nerf killingham in any shape or form.
Classic headcanon

A summoner not having any summons available is obviously a nerf lol. His one and only current summon is being held up by the Giant Warrior Pirates.

 

[Doggo]

A summoner not having any summons available is obviously a nerf lol. His one and only current summon is being held up by the Giant Warrior Pirates.

What's more significant?
Omen Boost+Omen Weapon or his summons?