Speculations Now that we know enough about CoC - Who else do you think has it after 1194?

#42
The path Oda develops Koby seems to make people think he is going to to have CoC. That is pretty much possible, but he same weakness as Sanji. He sacrificed himself for the marines in the face of powerful people like Akainu and Blackbeard. Unless he can overcome it in the future, else he won't awaken it.
Sacrificing isn't an issue. I think its the mentality behind it. Luffy and Zoro are willing to sacrifice themselves but their ideals stays the same. While Sanji is sacrificing himself by giving up.

Remember Zoro vs Mihawk and Zoro vs Kuma and Luffy vs Marineford and most of Luffy's fight are fights to the death and he kept saying he would rather die than lose this and that but he isn't giving up.

WCI Sanji was the ultimate sacrifice he did by giving up on everything just so Zeff and SH can live and him not being a burden to them.

I think he unlocks it as I'm 100% sure he'll need to fight Imu to undo his immortality in the final war
Oh you are not only thinking he has the qualities you actually think he will awaken it too. Well we need to see more for that.
 
#44
You don't think Akainu's Absolute Justice mentality qualifies as a King?
I think it does, but I'm not 100% sure. He never showed it, there were no hints, and awakening it in his 50s is a little strange. Also, it looks like Oda tends to give really powerful CoC only to pirates, with the exception of Garp, who is a pirate in everything but name. So I would not be surprised to see Akainu use CoC, but so far he has looked like a DF merchant.
 
#45
I think it does, but I'm not 100% sure. He never showed it, there were no hints, and awakening it in his 50s is a little strange. Also, it looks like Oda tends to give really powerful CoC only to pirates, with the exception of Garp, who is a pirate in everything but name. So I would not be surprised to see Akainu use CoC, but so far he has looked like a DF merchant.
Sengoku is confirmed a CoC user too in his Vivre card. As for Akainu i don't think he is going to awaken i believe he already has been using it for a long time but it was never shown to us.
 
#46
Sacrificing isn't an issue. I think its the mentality behind it. Luffy and Zoro are willing to sacrifice themselves but their ideals stays the same. While Sanji is sacrificing himself by giving up.

Remember Zoro vs Mihawk and Zoro vs Kuma and Luffy vs Marineford and most of Luffy's fight are fights to the death and he kept saying he would rather die than lose this and that but he isn't giving up.

WCI Sanji was the ultimate sacrifice he did by giving up on everything just so Zeff and SH can live and him not being a burden to them.


Oh you are not only thinking he has the qualities you actually think he will awaken it too. Well we need to see more for that.
So Koby has more confident than Sanji, I think Kuma sent him to the wrong island. He should train with Garp and become a chef in Marineford.
 
#47
Sengoku is confirmed a CoC user too in his Vivre card. As for Akainu i don't think he is going to awaken i believe he already has been using it for a long time but it was never shown to us.
Yeah, but I specified "powerful". Sengoku has 0 CoC feats and I won't be surprised if he doesn't have AdCoc.
Well that would be just weird, if Oda wrote him as a powerful concurer, why not just show it in marinford? Also Kuzan didn't show CoC, how they even fought for 10 days?
 
#48
So Koby has more confident than Sanji, I think Kuma sent him to the wrong island. He should train with Garp and become a chef in Marineford.
Yea i believe Koby got the memo since east blue. While Sanji kept struggling. Oda made it very clear in the latest chapters in the panels of sanji flashback moments.

Yeah, but I specified "powerful". Sengoku has 0 CoC feats and I won't be surprised if he doesn't have AdCoc.
Well that would be just weird, if Oda wrote him as a powerful concurer, why not just show it in marinford? Also Kuzan didn't show CoC, how they even fought for 10 days?
Well can't say much about Sengoku other than Roger and WB praised him as someone worthy.

As for the 10 days fight.. you got me there lol but i can't picture Akainu not having it awakened. Maybe we misjudged Kuzan ?
 
#50
Deceased
Noland
Calgara
Ryuma
Fisher Tiger

100 %
Sabo
Koby
5 admiral
Black Horse
Magellan
Shiryu
Beckmann
Mihawk
Dragon
Shamrock
5 Gorosei
Kong

Should have potential for it
Ulti
Wyper
Dellinger (Prodigy)
Enel
Vivi
King (nerfs himself by only going for Kaidos goals)
Buggy
Enel
Prince Grus (Cobys rival)
Lucci
Jack (Kaido saw something in him)
Weevil
Urouge
 
#58
Deceased
Noland
Calgara
Ryuma
Fisher Tiger

100 %
Sabo
Koby
5 admiral
Black Horse
Magellan
Shiryu
Beckmann
Mihawk
Dragon
Shamrock
5 Gorosei
Kong

Should have potential for it
Ulti
Wyper
Dellinger (Prodigy)
Enel
Vivi
King (nerfs himself by only going for Kaidos goals)
Buggy
Enel
Prince Grus (Cobys rival)
Lucci
Jack (Kaido saw something in him)
Weevil
Urouge
Dellinger and Prince Grus are wild takes to me. The rest i can see it.

both captains here


Law i still can't see it yet.

Maybe, but then again, why not just show it to us in a fight with Garp?
He was wavering even Garp pointed that out for him. Either way its up in the air.. why would Garp choose to mentor him in the 1st place if he didn't see what he saw in Koby. At this point no idea .. but Akainu.. hmm.

People were saying Ivankov had it based on the hints, but I was 99% sure he didn't. CoC is super elite fighters.

It's time for Zoro fanboys to accept Katakuri > King.
Well having it awakened is another story this post is about who fits the CoC persona.

And i agree on Kat potential being higher than King. Both of them wear a mask but only one of them rose to role.


All of Marineford was shocked when Luffy revealed CoC. How in God's name does Ulti fit this criteria?
You really can't see it? she might not even awaken it at all but she has the same qualities.
 
#60
Dellinger and Prince Grus are wild takes to me. The rest i can see it.
Dellinger was 16 in Dressrosa and did absolutely great. One Piece characters usually reach power between 30-40 and peak between 40-60. No guarantee of course but his potential combat power should be much higher than for example Diamante who was 45-50.

Prince Grus is around 23-26. He has been portrayed as Cobys true rival in the Marines around his age bracket. I think Coby has the potential to become FA while Grus could become Admiral and thus qualify for CoC.
 
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