Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1195: Weakness

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Mr. Anderson

Mr. Anderson

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#301
#301
vikas said:
We have to see if Oda actually gives Sanji CoC(meaning have to give some BS Reason as to why he didnt show any signs so far) or Sanji getting a stupid ass powerup to counter them which also is dogshit.
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Sanji didnt show any signs of CoC because he didnt have the mentality of a Conqueror. Oda pretty much laid it out with Gaban's exposition lol. Sanji doubts himself too much.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#303
#303
Mr. Anderson said:
Everyone glazing Zoro's CoC like Oda isn't about to equalize them both again when Sanji unlocks his. If Zoro can defeat all these people now, so will Sanji lol.
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Thats not how it works. Not all coc is equal.
Zoro pre power up was treating sommers like a training dummy. Sanji is getting stomped. Sanji aint getting current zoro level acoc.
 
Mr. Anderson

Mr. Anderson

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#304
#304
HA001 said:
Thats not how it works. Not all coc is equal.
Zoro pre power up was treating sommers like a training dummy. Sanji is getting stomped. Sanji aint getting current zoro level acoc.
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You're coping HA0. Oda is gonna have them close to each other in strength forevermore.

Thinking otherwise is literally just agenda based shenanigans.

It's already bad enough that y'all are making Zoro above Shanks for literal free lmfao.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#305
#305
Mr. Anderson said:
You're coping HA0. Oda is gonna have them close to each other in strength forevermore.

Thinking otherwise is literally just agenda based shenanigans.

It's already bad enough that y'all are making Zoro above Shanks for literal free lmfao.
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Im coping by stating facts apparently.
Agenda is stating what we are seeing but youre right with your fantasy makes sense
 
Mr. Anderson

Mr. Anderson

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#309
#309
HA001 said:
Its facts.
The feats are there in your face for both. Sanji is going extreme diff against the weaker guy and this doesnt even look like zoros real fight this arc.
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The feats that Sanji and Zoro are both stronger than Sommers and Killingham but need CoC to actually kill them for good?

Sanji said Killingham defeated him because he wasn't focused. Sanji is going through an internal crisis again, this is why he is taking damage. The minute Sanji locks in and unlocks CoC Killingham dies.

Sanji and Zoro are leaving Elbaf the same level of strength bro.

I'm not even gonna entertain this dicussion either. Because I've known you long enough to know you're just trolling and tryna ragebait me because you're bored and not really invested in OP like you used to lol.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#310
#310
Mr. Anderson said:
The feats that Sanji and Zoro are both stronger than Sommers and Killingham but need CoC to actually kill them for good?

Sanji said Killingham defeated him because he wasn't focused. Sanji is going through an internal crisis again, this is why he is taking damage. The minute Sanji locks in and unlocks CoC Killingham dies.

Sanji and Zoro are leaving Elbaf the same level of strength bro.
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Sure. If youre retarded.
Sommers pre mastered coc was getting Neg diffed.
Sanji is getting beat up. In what way is that equal.
Again sanji aint getting zoro level acoc off the bat.
 
Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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#311
#311
The usual order:

  1. Mr 1 > Mr 2 (as obvious by the evidence after Alabasta, Crocodile held Mr 1 far above Mr 2 even if they were somewhat competitive)
  2. Kaku > Jabra (as obvious by the evidence after Enies Lobby, Lucci and WG held Kaku far above Jabra even if they were somewhat competitive)
  3. King > Queen (as obvious by the evidence during Wano, Kaido held King far above Queen even if they were somewhat competitive)
  4. Ohm > Shura (surprisingly Sanji never got Shura)
In this arc it would seem Summers ≈ Killingham. I don't see one clearly above the other. Put Zoro vs Killingham and it is still a low diff. Instead we see it in how Sanji goes Hard Diff and Zoro went Low Diff.

Coming out of the arc we will now get

  1. Luffy - Well established Yonko, on path to PK
  2. Zoro - Well above Yamato, on path to Yonko. Perhaps 5th Yonko level. Vice Captain like Beckman.
  3. Sanji - Relative to Yamato. Can hold his own vs Admirals and Yonko for a short while but ultimately lose. Chief of Staff.
  4. Yamato - Can finally join. Will be debatable whether Sanji or Yamato is #3 for a while until Sanji clears. Top Commander outside the Captain, Vice Captain and Chief of Staff.
  5. Jinbei - Sunbell, Vista, Morley level. Very elite for a veteran but below the Captain, Vice Captain, Chief of Staff and Top Commander. Top veteran.
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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#312
#312
Cozy Sofa said:
The usual order:

  1. Mr 1 > Mr 2 (as obvious by the evidence after Alabasta, Crocodile held Mr 1 far above Mr 2 even if they were somewhat competitive)
  2. Kaku > Jabra (as obvious by the evidence after Enies Lobby, Lucci and WG held Kaku far above Jabra even if they were somewhat competitive)
  3. King > Queen (as obvious by the evidence during Wano, Kaido held King far above Queen even if they were somewhat competitive)
  4. Ohm > Shura (surprisingly Sanji never got Shura)
In this arc it would seem Summers ≈ Killingham. I don't see one clearly above the other. Put Zoro vs Killingham and it is still a low diff. Instead we see it in how Sanji goes Hard Diff and Zoro went Low Diff.

Coming out of the arc we will now get

  1. Luffy - Well established Yonko, on path to PK
  2. Zoro - Well above Yamato, on path to Yonko. Perhaps 5th Yonko level. Vice Captain like Beckman.
  3. Sanji - Relative to Yamato. Can hold his own vs Admirals and Yonko for a short while but ultimately lose. Chief of Staff.
  4. Yamato - Can finally join. Will be debatable whether Sanji or Yamato is #3 for a while until Sanji clears. Top Commander outside the Captain, Vice Captain and Chief of Staff.
  5. Jinbei - Sunbell, Vista, Morley level. Very elite for a veteran but below the Captain, Vice Captain, Chief of Staff and Top Commander. Top veteran.
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Zoro has yet to prove himself clear of Yamato
 
PuckTheGreat

PuckTheGreat

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#315
#315
Just finna say that all of this Zoro dick longer than Sanji knee jerk reactions ain’t gonna save you Sanji detractors from the haymakers that are coming your way if and when Sanji does awaken CoC :doakes_suss:
Knowing how shameless you lot are, truss the goal post is gonna move to Zoro’s Haki streaks longer 😂 but that ain’t gonna be enough to save your bacon so struggle whilst you can :kobeha:
 
BoaHancocksHusband

BoaHancocksHusband

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#316
#316
PuckTheGreat said:
Just finna say that all of this Zoro dick longer than Sanji knee jerk reactions ain’t gonna save you Sanji detractors from the haymakers that are coming your way if and when Sanji does awaken CoC :doakes_suss:
Knowing how shameless you lot are, truss the goal post is gonna move to Zoro’s Haki streaks longer 😂 but that ain’t gonna be enough to save your bacon so struggle whilst you can :kobeha:
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Ivankov > Mihawk > Shanks
 
Moewu

Moewu

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#320
#320
I am not much of a believer in Zodiac Signs, but in fictional stories it often means something. We are still in the Year of the Fire-Horse.

The Year of the Fire Horse is a rare Chinese zodiac combination that occurs once every 60 years, symbolizing intense energy, unstoppable momentum, and rapid transformation.

Interesting that there is a horse on the cover. Apparently the lucky colors also include : Green & Yellow. And the lucky numbers are 2,3 and 7.




:endthis:

Oda also gave Usopp the color : Yellow, in an SBS, just saying.

:handsup::usosmug:
 
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