Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

[John Akainu]

I have 0 idea who this crux guy is but he must've been their worst nightmare lmao
Mind you I ain't even a native english speaker so I almost certainly type in a different way than him

Bro thinks he'll fool us

 

[mly90]

Law is mentally nerfed @Roo
He struggles to find meaning beyond revenge, he has a clouded sense of self. He’s also a doctor so killing is against his oath.

How much did taking hundreds of hearts nerf him

 

[Topi Jerami]

I have 0 idea who this crux guy is but he must've been their worst nightmare lmao
Mind you I ain't even a native english speaker so I almost certainly type in a different way than him

Crux cooked those Sanji boys, that's why they fear Crux as much as Sanji fears Ivankov

 

[Fujishiro]

Crux cooked those Sanji boys, that's why they fear Crux as much as Sanji fears Ivankov

Crux keeps cooking himself and self banning.

 

[rohithkun]

Sanji has a will. Helping the crew.
He doesn't have a PERSONAL will. Because he hates himself he doesn't care about HIS dreams. He is basically a slave.
Sanji fc loves this again.
Meaning again here he was pathologically lying, but to own le zoro people are gonna accept character assasination

You are a Sanji hater, why do you care about his character? He says I am going to find all blue. He didn't lie at all. Was Zoro lying about becoming WSS because he is willing to die for Luffy? Keep misunderstand the character. And keep hating. Miserable Fucks.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

This Ivankov flashback is the missing piece to the WCI storyline, just like Mihawk's is to Zoro's Wano storyline.
That's where and when they fit, not now, three arcs and 5 years later.

Sanji already knew the lengths Luffy goes to for his nakama after the Robin fiasco. Even if Sanji didn't think he was as important to the crew as Robin, the second Luffy appeared in WCI, that should've been Sanji's wake-up moment. You can still have him go through the wedding ordeal for the sake of Zeff's safety, but once the conspiracy against Germa breaks out, that's where his character arc needs a conclusion, and that's where Ivankov's words fit: he sees he's loved, he rejects Judge's vision but still protects him and his siblings, and realizes that he's better than his dad and that he has a proper family that accepts him without trying to change him. That's the whole recipe.

Now? Now it feels like an afterthought. Like either Oda didn't have the time to include it in that arc, or that he was holding out on it just for a cheap PU down the line.

I disagree. I think it works best now because this seems to be the first time there’s actively no way out. No gas causing the fight to end early, no one coming to tag him out, just fix yourself or die

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Crux cooked those Sanji boys, that's why they fear Crux as much as Sanji fears Ivankov

Out of all the solid arguments that have been made in favor of Zoro, you had to choose the Z boy version of rootbeer to stan for.

 

[park_min young]

How much did taking hundreds of hearts nerf him

Every heart nerfs him by 20% by my calculations

 

[Fujishiro]

Out of all the solid arguments that have been made in favor of Zoro, you had to choose the Z boy version of rootbeer to Stan

Trollpi Jerami works in mysterious ways.

 

[Signman77]

You are a Sanji hater, why do you care about his character? He says I am going to find all blue. He didn't lie at all. Was Zoro lying about becoming WSS because he is willing to die for Luffy? Keep misunderstand the character. And keep hating. Miserable Fucks.

I still care about one of the main cast getting character assasinated because he didn't know to explain his "self hate" thingy.

 

[moreha9685]

Law is mentally nerfed @Roo
He struggles to find meaning beyond revenge, he has a clouded sense of self. He’s also a doctor so killing is against his oath.

Law is now a male Robin, interested in the story of the D.
Oda already unnerfed him at the end of Wano.



which means that BB fought and easily defeated a Law far stronger than the one who dethroned BM

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Sanji is suicidal yet dude could not understand zoro sacrificing his own life for his dream.

THE MAN THAT HAD ZERO VALUE FOR HIS LIFE COULD NOT EVEN FATHOM ANOTHER PERSON GIVING UP THEIR LIFE FOR A FIGHT.

Sanji stans logic I guess.

So moving forward i now understand that every fight sanji has been in sanji himself thought he was gonna loss hence why he is dubbed as being suicidal

 

[bennbeckman]

Oda Nerfed Year of Sanji... now it's year of Damanji due to mental nerf

 

[bennbeckman]

I still care about one of the main cast getting character assasinated because he didn't know to explain his "self hate" thingy.

Who hates Sanji more Sanji haters or Sanji himself?

 

[Signman77]

Who hates Sanji more Sanji haters or Sanji himself?

Sanji fans apparently
They're okay with him having 0 self worth until now basically

 

[mly90]

We know goatbeard was already dealing with severe health issue in marineford but how much further was he mentally nerfed by ace death

 

[Fujishiro]

which means that BB fought and easily defeated a Law far stronger than the one who dethroned BM

 

[Jklmnop]

In Elbaf:
Sanji > Zoro - Proven Correct
Mihawk > Shanks - Proven Correct
Loki > Luffy - Proven Correcr
Roger = Rayleigh = Gaban = Whitebeard = Garp = Rocks = Harald = Shiki = Silver Axe - Proven Correct

Good Agenda arc but nothing else

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Who hates Sanji more Sanji haters or Sanji himself?

Sanji stans cuz they telling me every fight sanji been in he was suicidal since sanji himself thought he was going to lose those fights.

The same suicidal sanji called zoro stupid for giving up his life for a fight. That response don't sound like a suicidal person. It sounds like a person that loves their lif and loves living lol

 

[Fujishiro]

In Elbaf:
Sanji > Zoro - Proven Correct
Mihawk > Shanks - Proven Correct
Loki > Luffy - Proven Correcr
Roger = Rayleigh = Gaban = Whitebeard = Garp = Rocks = Harald = Shiki = Silver Axe - Proven Correct

Good Agenda arc but nothing else

What.