Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

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AND THAT TRAUMA CAME FROM WHOM? THE VINSMOKE (HIS BROTHERS AND FATHER). THE LOSS OF THE ONLY PERSON THAT MADE HIM FEEL HIM (DIED BECAUSE OF THE VINSMOKE)
Don't let these guys gaslight you with the "superior character understanding because he's my favorite" bullshit. At this point, it's a tell that they'll just say anything to keep up the smokescreen
 
AND THAT TRAUMA CAME FROM WHOM? THE VINSMOKE (HIS BROTHERS AND FATHER). THE LOSS OF THE ONLY PERSON THAT MADE HIM FEEL HIM (DIED BECAUSE OF THE VINSMOKE)
He already accepted that part of him in Wano. Now it’s just him accepting what he’s been doing and acknowledging that he will work on loving himself like the straw hats love him.

You’re crashing out over nothing
 
Value himself rather than sacrificing himself and treating himself as replaceable. Iva says love is about living to defend not sacrifice.

Continues to put "Zeff's chivalry" above his life and will refuse to fight back vs women even if he or others die.

Ask yourself this, if literally no one else is on the island, and it's just him vs Zaza who is kidnapping the kids, what would he do before this chapter, and what would change after this chapter?
They can't grasp that after this incredible character arc, sanji will still do the same shit as before but for the right reasons, he will still put zeff teachings over his own life, still risk his life for others etc.. because it's a fucking shonen manga everyone does that shit.
This is known as narrative fluff in writing, stating something that is inconsequential.
 
He already accepted that part of him in Wano. Now it’s just him accepting what he’s been doing and acknowledging that he will work on loving himself like the straw hats love him.

You’re crashing out over nothing
Cap.

He did not accept that part of himself since everything you stated (him not loving himself) still comes from the trauma he ENDURED FROM HIS FAMILY THE VINSMOKE.

Everything came from that trauma (lack of love for himself).

To add how could he have GOTTEN OVER it if he had asked zoro to kill him because of it? (He thought he was gonna lose his emotions because of it). The only reason why it was no longer a plot point was because he was still able to remain the same sanji after getting the powers.

He was still able to be HIMSELF (THE SELF NEEDED TO BE A CONQUEROR. WANO WAS THE ONLY TIME IN WHICH HE WAS SO AFRAID OF LOSING SELF THAT HE WANTED ZORO TO KILL.

The scene still showed he was afraid of losing himself. That's the message. Thats the fear.

Its why zoro's "believe in yourself " dialog in this chapter hits. Believe in yourself that you won't lose yourSELF
 
Cap.

He did not accept that part of himself since everything you stated (him not loving himself) still comes from the trauma he ENDURED FROM HIS FAMILY THE VINSMOKE.

Everything came from that trauma (lack of love for himself).

To add how could he have GOTTEN OVER it if he had asked zoro to kill him because of it? (He thought he was gonna lose his emotions because of it). The only reason why it was no longer a plot point was because he was still able to remain the same sanji after getting the powers.

He was still able to be HIMSELF (THE SELF NEEDED TO BE A CONQUEROR. WANO WAS THE ONLY TIME IN WHICH HE WAS SO AFRAID OF LOSING SELF THAT HE WANTED ZORO TO KILL.

The scene still showed he was afraid of losing himself. That's the message. Thats the fear.

Its why zoro's "believe in yourself " dialog in this chapter hits. Believe in yourself that you won't lose yourSELF
He literally said he accepted it. He told Zoro to kill him if he lost his sense of self but that never happened.

He’s not scared of losing himself anymore. He literally says that in Wano. You really are just reading a different manga.
 
They can't grasp that after this incredible character arc, sanji will still do the same shit as before but for the right reasons, he will still put zeff teachings over his own life, still risk his life for others etc.. because it's a fucking shonen manga everyone does that shit.
This is known as narrative fluff in writing, stating something that is inconsequential.
This. All conquerors are known to put their beliefs (SELF) above their own lives.

Shanks has no problem you making fun of him but don't mess with his friends.

Luffy is the same. He puts freedom of anyone he likes and himself above his own life

Zoro is always willing to die for his dream

Koby willing to die for the TRUTH

Rodgers died putting his all in finding the onepiece

Garp willing to DIE to save KOBY since he values NEW LIFE over the life of the old.


Those whom are conquerors are the epitome of reckless.

Its why this narrative is ASS for sanji. Because as a conquer he will have to do the same things he already been doing (putting his belief above his own life)
 
Imagine you're a Zoro fan, and your entire wellbeing on god's green earth depends on Zoro, and yet Oda has written some shitty pervert cook who for absolutely no reason but to piss off Zoro in manga, and Zoro fans irl, is as strong Zoro despite his entire being dedicated to training and strength

And now we even learn Sanji was always nerfed because hes a dumbass who hates himself
:gokulaugh:
 
This. All conquerors are known to put their beliefs above self.

Shanks has no problem you making fun of him but don't mess with bis friends

Zoro is always willing to die for his dream

Koby willing to die for the TRUTH

Rodgers died putting his all in finding the onepiece

Garp willing to DIE to save KOBY since he values NEW LIFE over the life of the old.
EOS Coby is probably above Imu
 
Imagine you're a Zoro fan, and your entire wellbeing on god's green earth depends on Zoro, and yet Oda has written some shitty pervert cook who for absolutely no reason but to piss off Zoro in manga, and Zoro fans irl, is as strong Zoro despite his entire being dedicated to training and strength

And now we even learn Sanji was always nerfed because hes a dumbass who hates himself
:gokulaugh:
Gaban broke their minds, its all been downhill from there.....
 
He’s not scared of that anymore he literally takes care of that in Wano.
He does not. If that were the case then the trauma would be GONE. The only thing that happened in wano is that he no longer has to worry about losing self because he is using germa powers.

However he is still afraid of not being himself.

Mihawk said it point blank. To be a conqueror is to UNDERSTAND ONE'S SELF. IF SANJI HAD GOTTEN OVER IT IN WANO LIKE YOU CLAIM THEN HE WOULD CURRENTLY BE ALL OF HIMSELF. BUT EVEN NOW HE IS NOT!!!!!!

Its only at the end of the chapter does he get it. Because his actions were being dictated by TRAUMA
 
Imagine you're a Zoro fan, and your entire wellbeing on god's green earth depends on Zoro, and yet Oda has written some shitty pervert cook who for absolutely no reason but to piss off Zoro in manga, and Zoro fans irl, is as strong Zoro despite his entire being dedicated to training and strength

And now we even learn Sanji was always nerfed because hes a dumbass who hates himself
:gokulaugh:
Zoro fans would enjoy zoro 10 times more if they stopped caring if sanji is weaker equal or stronger than zoro
 
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