Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Not mine but seems to be the case for Luffy

You'll never be able to guess which arm Luffy use for his ultimate attack ( KKG, Bajrang Gun, White star Gun etc)

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

He got over his fear with Germa in Wano. He got over his fear of becoming like them in Wano. He wasn’t magically cured of his self love issues… so you’re mad Sanjis development was ongoing??

His self love issues stemmed from where exactly? Germa

His loathing stemmed from where exactly? Germa

His self worth and doubt stemmed from where exactly? Germa

Him being fine with using germa powers after he found out that his personality didn't change doesn't take away the above stated because he has not gotten over the above things stated hence why he still has trauma

 

[soheilhazrat]

I think Sanji should just awaken FS and basic CoC, while getting ACoC later.

This chapter seems to hint more towards FS than ACoC, as Iva's words and Sanji's resolve seem to be towards him not getting hit. He could and probably will get CoC in the process. But I do tbh see an issue with him going from no-CoC to ACoC. I mean yeah, Zoro did it, but he also had enma.

For the first 1000+ chapters of the story, we were introduced to numerous basic CoC users with no ACoC. Luffy, Chinjao, Doffy, Kata, and Kid. ACoC is a very hard ability to get, even if you already have basic CoC. It would just seem very convenient for Sanji to get it now all of a sudden.

With FS, Killingham wouldn't be able to touch Sanji. Sanji could effortlessly hack him to pieces. He could grab Killingham's head and go throw it into the ocean. CoC just might not be necessary at that point. Alternatively maybe it will be a loki type situation where Sanji unconsciously uses ACoC to shatter Killingham's heart.

In any case, I don't think Sanji masters ACoC this arc. He masters CoO and gets some CoC power on top, but that is something Oda will deal with later.

Sanji will master both CoO and CoC this arc
Theres no reason for sanji and zolo to be weaker than 80 year old gaban anymore
Next arc we shouldnt have another gaban saving the day
They should become big dogs already, its time
Theres no need to stall it anymore

 

[soheilhazrat]

Imagine all Strawhats unleasing their CoCs and blasting Imu with it all at the same time, flooding Imu with the huge combined release of their CoCs

Peak writing

 

[Sir Yasheen]

His self love issues stemmed from where exactly? Germa

His loathing stemmed from where exactly? Germa

His self worth and doubt stemmed from where exactly? Germa

Him being fine with using germa powers after he found out that his personality didn't change doesn't take away the above stated because he has not gotten over the above things stated hence why he still has trauma

His self love issues started with germa but became a separate issue for him entirely. Just because he has come to terms with Germa doesn’t mean he suddenly would love himself.

He is dealing with correcting his trauma response because he’s come to terms with the trauma itself.

 

[John Akainu]

Sir Yasheen vs Zoro fans about Sanji's Character Development in a nutshell:

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

If my fav's rival were about to unlock CoC without magical weapon and having the same level of AdCoC of my fav even despite my fav has unlocked CoC two arcs before, i would be mad too.

And this is the dumb ass right here. No one is complaining about him getting coc or advanced coc. He literally needs it to even fight them. So it makes sense.

What does not make sense is stating that sanji didn't have coc because he was always sacrificial when every single damn conqueror user is for their dream and to protect others.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Sanji will master both CoO and CoC this arc
Theres no reason for sanji and zolo to be weaker than 80 year old gaban anymore
Next arc we shouldnt have another gaban saving the day
They should become big dogs already, its time
Theres no need to stall it anymore

Exactly mate! This is the culmination of decades of writing. Sanji is getting all his biggest upgrades here. CoO and CoC!! Its literally been hammered again and again that Sanji's resolution will result in CoC.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2110354838118924352

We here for it~!!!

Gonna be interesting to see how the fight plays out going forward

 

[Signman77]

Isn't it very obvious this is about Sanji learning to let go of his "hang ups" and fight with his hands?

That's where you are wrong.
This whole thing will not change anything about sanji character because Oda invented a "flaw" for him to remain the same character while stating a change. I.e that he had some self harm/low self worth going on whatever the fuck.
Sanji will go back to being the usual sanji with a power up, but oda stated he changed.
Apparently fantastic writing

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

His self love issues started with germa but became a separate issue for him entirely. Just because he has come to terms with Germa doesn’t mean he suddenly would love himself.

He is dealing with correcting his trauma response because he’s come to terms with the trauma itself.

How could something become an entirely different subject when it was only CREATED in the first place because of the trauma to begin with?

The only way your point would stand is if he got over said trauma created in the first place (never confirmed not even this chapter) and then it developed again for a different reason afterwards

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

And this is the dumb ass right here. No one is complaining about him getting coc or advanced coc. He literally needs it to even fight them. So it makes sense.

What does not make sense is stating that sanji didn't have coc because he was always sacrificial when every single damn conqueror user is for their dream and to protect others.

It's that Sanji has low self esteem and believes that he isn't worth as much as he really is. He goes into battles completely complacent with the idea that he might die in those battles, which is bad.

 

[John Akainu]

And this is the dumb ass right here

What does not make sense is stating that sanji didn't have coc because he was always sacrificial when every single damn conqueror user is for their dream and to protect others.

 

[MarineHQ]

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

It's that Sanji has low self esteem and believes that he isn't worth as much as he really is. He goes into battles completely complacent with the idea that he might die in those battles, which is bad.

Again if thats the case where is this example ever once shown?

He called zoro a dumbass trying to give up his life all for a dream to fight Mihawk. Same sanji told zoro Not to give up his life doing something so ass.

The only times in which your point would stand about sanji willing to die in a fight is when he fights women. And even then when he fought Maria whom was about to kill him he cried out to Robin to save him.

Zoro and luffy also have the same trait that I may die in this fight but regardless I can't take a step backwards. So whats the point when as a conqueror sanji will still have to have the ideology that he may enter a fight on the losing end but he still has to fight regardless

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How could something become an entirely different subject when it was only CREATED in the first place because of the trauma to begin with?

The only way your point would staned is if he got over said trauma created in the first place (never confirmed not even this chapter) and then it developed again for a different reason afterwards

Because that’s how mental and physical health works?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Again if thats the case where is this example ever once shown?

He called zoro a dumbass trying to give up his life all for a dream to fight Mihawk. Same sanji told zoro Not to give up his life doing something so ass.

The only times in which your point would stand about sanji willing to die in a fight is when he fights women. And even then when he fought Maria whom was about to kill him he cried out to Robin to save him.

Zoro and luffy also have the same trait that I may die in this fight but regardless I can't take a step backwards. So whats the point when as a conqueror sanji will still have to have the ideology that he may enter a fight on the losing end but he still has to fight regardless

Do you know what a hypocrite is

 

[Signman77]

He goes into battles completely complacent with the idea that he might die in those battles, which is bad.

You realize this is every character in a life or death situation/battle ever?
It's not like Luffy knows he will win for sure. He said he is okay with dying trying to become the king of the pirates back in loguetown.
Luffy not a true conqueror?
Sanji FC cope is crazy, they got an ass conclusion after 2 backstories and 3 character arcs

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Cute. Still don't have an argument to combat the point. Sanji character cannot change because as a conqueror he will still put others above him at times etc