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#41
The difference was only having unlocked supreme king haki. Zoro had it and was able to counter omen regeneration well even before controlling his conqueror's haki.

Sanji showed that he literally destroyed Killingham body different times and Killingham admitted that he can regenerates forever and all Sanji damage were useless.

So the difference was only that.

Admirals probably have supreme king haki but we can't be sure. So Fujitora or Aramaki will end up like Sanji. Would you say that they are weaker than Zoro?
This is simply not accurate, respectfully.

Zoro at no point countered Sommers' regeneration with CoC until he threw the CoC lightning bolt at the very end and Sommers ran away.

Prior to that, Zoro was constantly blitzing and fodderising Sommers in CQC extremely casually. Sommers couldn't make Zoro struggle at all. He couldn't touch him, he couldn't damage him, he couldn't block Zoro's attacks, he couldn't keep up in CQC — this was regardless of whether Zoro was using CoC or not. Zoro was daydreaming about other things, testing his haki, actively not trying to evade Sommers' traps lmao, having flashbacks etc...

Even if Zoro had no CoC, Sommers was so much weaker than him that Sommers simply posed absolutely no threat whatsoever. Sommers was a low-diff opponent for pre-power up Zoro, hence why even Sommers knew he was being used as a training dummy.

On the other side, Sanji is not trying to get hit by Killingham; he has a reckless, careless fighting style right now as stated by Ivankov, and so as a result of his recklessness and lack of self regard, he is getting absolutely ragdolled left right and centre. The ragdolling over time is slowing him down resulting in an extreme-diff battle with Killingham.

The difference between Zoro /the Admirals and Sanji here is that Zoro was clearly far superior to Sommers. Whether he had CoC or not, Sommers was a bum to him. Zoro was practicing his CoC hence why he kept trying but if he knew he didn't have CoC, he could've just cut off two pieces of Sommers and held them apart or something,like there are plenty other ways you can deal with HKs without CoC IF you are strong enough. If the Admirals fought the HKs it'd be laughable. Ryo would tie em up in vines neg-diff and Fuji would keep em gravity pinned neg-diff.

Zoro would cut Sommers into pieces and separate them neg-diff but I cannot say the same for Sanji. Why? Because when he would kick Killingham into two, because of Sanji's reckless fighting style, he would be left hanging in the air and Omen Killingham was now strong enough to be able to counterattack Sanji before he could recover from his reckless attack.

If Sanji powers up and no longer gets hit/struggles anymore, and is low-diffing Killingham, then he'll be in the same boat as pre-power up Zoro where he's just practicing until he gets CoC because the purpose of these fights is not just to win but to awaken CoC, but we need to wait and see what the difficulty is between now current Sanji and Killingham.
 
#42
Zoro would cut Sommers into pieces and separate them neg-diff but I cannot say the same for Sanji.
The chapter already proves you wrong. Sanji is able to dismantle Killingham without problems. Without regeneration he would be defeated like nothing.

Why? Because when he would kick Killingham into two, because of Sanji's reckless fighting style, he would be left hanging in the air and Omen Killingham was now strong enough to be able to counterattack Sanji before he could recover from his reckless attack.
This means nothing. It's just an excuse. Of course Killingham can counter attack because he can regenerate. Sanji only lacked supreme king haki, he dismantled Killingham like Zoro cut Sommers. The difference is Zoro was lacking precision in using supreme king haki, Sanji was lacking supreme king haki.
 
#44
You are being willfully disingenous here. Sanji's powerup at the end of the chapter here is self love, which we havent even seen yet. Unless you also think that Sanji wont unlock ACoC which is hilarious. Full Potential Non-nerfed Sanji is going to be lol diffing Killingham just as Zoro did Sommers.
"Full potential non-nerfed Sanji" this is an extremely long winded way of saying powered-up Sanji lol.

Sanji says he will get stronger. Sanji is literally saying he will power-up now that he loves himself. He is saying he will change his fighting style.

Did Sanji love himself at the start of Elbaf, yes or no?

So if Zoro and Sanji fought at the start of Elbaf, who would win? Ah yes, Zoro would stomp.

At what point would Sanji give Zoro a good fight in the actual manga? Not at the start of Elbaf that's for sure. Maybe after the current chapter? Oops wrong again, as Zoro has already powered up. So when? Perhaps after he awakens CoC. Has he awakened CoC yet? No. So at every point in Elbaf so far, Sanji has been massively weaker than Zoro.

Instead of waiting 2 weeks for Sanji to awaken CoC and compare apples to apples,you Sanji fans would rather mix and match different versions of the characters that never existed at the same time lmao.
 
#48
So if Zoro and Sanji fought at the start of Elbaf, who would win? Ah yes, Zoro would stomp.
We could argue all the time about who is stronger. I think no one will come to a real conclusion, but this quote here shows how you clearly don't understand that a fight between the two, no matter who will win, no one will stomp the other. It will be a extreme-near death win for one of both sides. And if you can't comprehend this, you're biased. And I think Zoro win 6 out of 4 of these matches as a Sanji fan.
 
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#49
I never called you crux, and I never harassed anyone. Take a break holy shit man it's not that serious it's a manga shitposting forum
Bro, I started posting regularly a week ago. This is genuinely my first account. If I take a break I might as well never come back on the forum, put yourself in my shoes. I ain't the one that should be taking a break. I got jumped at the first day:okay:
 
#52
The chapter already proves you wrong. Sanji is able to dismantle Killingham without problems. Without regeneration he would be defeated like nothing.



This means nothing. It's just an excuse. Of course Killingham can counter attack because he can regenerate. Sanji only lacked supreme king haki, he dismantled Killingham like Zoro cut Sommers. The difference is Zoro was lacking precision in using supreme king haki, Sanji was lacking supreme king haki.
What are you talking about man, surely you must be misunderstanding me 😭 Lemme break it down:
Pre-power up Sanji:
Can blitz Killingham but is unable to avoid a counterattack.
Unable to utterly dominate Killingham, gets tagged constantly, accumulated extreme damage.

Pre-power up Zoro:
Can blitz Sommers and utterly dominate at will.
Taken zero damage.
Sommers unable to land a single hit.

You say Sanji only lacked CoC but that is incorrect, because Zoro dominated whether he had CoC or not. So Sanji lacked more than CoC, he simply wasn't overwhelmingly stronger than Killingham like pre-power up Zoro was overwhelmingly stronger than Sommers to be able to treat Killingham like a training dummy as Zoro did Sommers.

Maybe from the next chapter, Sanji will be overwhelmingly stronger to be able to do so but that remains to be seen. All we know is that if you take the versions of Zoro and Sanji before they started their fights with the HKs, Zoro would've absolutely stomped Sanji, period.
 
#53
We could argue all the time about who is stronger. I think no one will come to a real conclusion, but this quote here shows how you clearly don't understand that a fight between the two, no matter who will win, no one will stomp the other. It will be a extreme-near death win for one of both sides. And if you can't comprehend this, you're biased. And I think Zoro win 6 out of 4 of these matches as a Sanji fan.
No, this is completely and utterly wrong. It's a shame as I thought you could be a reasonable Sanji fan.

What you've just done here is say, "no matter what I see in the manga and no matter what happens, I have decided that Zoro and Sanji will always be extreme-diff fights for each other at any given point in time and I will reshape the manga to suit my headcanon".

Which is fine to have your opinion, but don't be calling other people biased before you point out your own.
 
#54
Bro, I started posting regularly a week ago. This is genuinely my first account. If I take a break I might as well never come back on the forum, put yourself in my shoes. I ain't the one that should be taking a break. I got jumped at the first day:okay:
Just for the record, when Crux was here, I was one of the few users who told mods to protect him from bullying because it was getting too far. I don't know or care if you're crux I swear, but if you wanna take a break go for it, but know that this is an agenda shitposting forum for people who don't read One Piece lol so this is the norm here unfortunately, just agenda cancer

He pretends to be unironicly "harassed" from the meme picture you drew of him and nikainparis despite flinging shit all day
:rolaugh:
I only memed the "Not Crux" on that thread because that's what people were saying lol it's a joke
 
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#55
Just for the record, when Crux was here, I was one of the few users who told mods to protect him from bullying because it was getting too far. I don't know or care if you're crux I swear, but if you wanna take a break go for it, but know that this is an agenda shitposting forum for people who don't read One Piece lol so this is the norm here unfortunately, just agenda cancer


I only memed the "Not Crux" on that thread because that's what people were saying lol it's a joke
Oh so I became a target for bullying, nice to know lmao
Just for the record, when Crux was here, I was one of the few users who told mods to protect him from bullying because it was getting too far. I don't know or care if you're crux I swear, but if you wanna take a break go for it, but know that this is an agenda shitposting forum for people who don't read One Piece lol so this is the norm here unfortunately, just agenda cancer


I only memed the "Not Crux" on that thread because that's what people were saying lol it's a joke
I'm genuinely at loss. I joined this forum a week ago and I got at least 10 guys saying I'm a guy they bullied off the site you're telling me?
 
#56
No, this is completely and utterly wrong. It's a shame as I thought you could be a reasonable Sanji fan.

What you've just done here is say, "no matter what I see in the manga and no matter what happens, I have decided that Zoro and Sanji will always be extreme-diff fights for each other at any given point in time and I will reshape the manga to suit my headcanon".

Which is fine to have your opinion, but don't be calling other people biased before you point out your own.
I'm basing my opinion on an already established duo dynamic since the start of the manga. Seems like we're going nowhere. Let's agree to disagree.
 
#57
Just for the record, when Crux was here, I was one of the few users who told mods to protect him from bullying because it was getting too far. I don't know or care if you're crux I swear, but if you wanna take a break go for it, but know that this is an agenda shitposting forum for people who don't read One Piece lol so this is the norm here unfortunately, just agenda cancer


I only memed the "Not Crux" on that thread because that's what people were saying lol it's a joke
na dont fall for it he is full of agenda shit, he just is a cry bully like/is crux lol:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-35#post-6890002
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-38#post-6890080
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-38#post-6890080

He is litterarly what you posted:
You can spend your weekend like Chud, or like Chad, the choice is yours
Just another cry bully who instantly spergs out and calling people schizo and retard as much as he gets pushback :josad:
 
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#58
na dont fall for it he is full of agenda shit, he just is a cry bully like/is crux lol:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-35#post-6890002
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-38#post-6890080
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-38#post-6890080

He is litterarly what you posted:

Just another cry bully who instantly spergs out and calling people schizo and retard as much as he gets pushback :josad:
If the admin proves I'm not crux, what will you do?
 
#59
If the admin proves I'm not crux, what will you do?
The admins cant "prove" such a thing crux, we have already had multiple instances of people publicly admitting they posted from 2 different accounts without the admin knowing shit, lmao.
Also nice deflection of my post, you are cry bully regardless if you are not as I demonstrably proved
 
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#60
na dont fall for it he is full of agenda shit, he just is a cry bully like/is crux lol:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-35#post-6890002
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-38#post-6890080
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poilers-discussion.89528/page-38#post-6890080

He is litterarly what you posted:

Just another cry bully who instantly spergs out and calling people schizo and retard as much as he gets pushback :josad:
Also, these are all discussion from the manga, you think me saying even harsh things about a manga warrants a 4 day harassing campaign?
 
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