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Everyone can justify whatever they want to justify.
But giving more empathy to burnt trash rather than maimed teens is a very low take.
Is the small business in the room with us ?
Not so many actual small businesses have been looted.
What you see on the video is a "monoprix". Do your research or stick to your hate boner.
But giving more empathy to burnt trash rather than maimed teens is a very low take.
Is the small business in the room with us ?
Not so many actual small businesses have been looted.
What you see on the video is a "monoprix". Do your research or stick to your hate boner.
Yes, One Piece has always been political 
Revolution is not a walk in a flower field or an esthetic.
The poor are already hurt, the poor are already destroyed.
Now the poor demand a redistribution.
Actually you do. It's called a change of power balance.
Well.. get angry
We only want to replace one kind of population : the fascist kind.
Hope
I told you the left was angry here
Well.. Now there are also making fires about it.
No they are not going far enough. We should be even more angry.
Sadly, I can't do much. But I trust the youth.
Revolution is not a walk in a flower field or an esthetic.
The poor are already hurt, the poor are already destroyed.
Now the poor demand a redistribution.
Actually you do. It's called a change of power balance.
Well.. get angry
We only want to replace one kind of population : the fascist kind.
Hope
I told you the left was angry here
Well.. Now there are also making fires about it.
No they are not going far enough. We should be even more angry.
Sadly, I can't do much. But I trust the youth.
Yes, One Piece has always been political
Revolution is not a walk in a flower field or an esthetic.
The poor are already hurt, the poor are already destroyed.
Now the poor demand a redistribution.
Actually you do. It's called a change of power balance.
Well.. get angry
We only want to replace one kind of population : the fascist kind.
Hope
I told you the left was angry here
Well.. Now there are also making fires about it.
No they are not going far enough. We should be even more angry.
Sadly, I can't do much. But I trust the youth.
Revolution is not a walk in a flower field or an esthetic.
The poor are already hurt, the poor are already destroyed.
Now the poor demand a redistribution.
Actually you do. It's called a change of power balance.
Well.. get angry
We only want to replace one kind of population : the fascist kind.
Hope
I told you the left was angry here
Well.. Now there are also making fires about it.
No they are not going far enough. We should be even more angry.
Sadly, I can't do much. But I trust the youth.
Ok so y'all support burning and looting, noted...
Poverty and oppression is not an esthetic, it's not an experience of thoughts. We can't ask for things to change rapidely and be afraid when the legitimate violence gets out of control. Buildings can be rebuilds, lives cannot.
Oppression and destruction have already been the reality of all the working class in the west for some times now.
Now, people are angry and they are damn right to be.
Ok so y'all support maiming teens and focusing on some burnt trash and miscellaneous whatnots, noted... 
Sounds like the thoughts of a man sitting in comfort watching the city burn though his TV screen. What about that poor woman
What's your favorite way to protest ?
You should understand that almost a million person were in the streets. Not even 1% percent of them looted or burnt things.
What poor women ? Nothing happened to her. She is having an exaggerated reaction about a monoprix.
You should understand that almost a million person were in the streets. Not even 1% percent of them looted or burnt things.
Sounds like the thoughts of a man sitting in comfort watching the city burn though his TV screen. What about that poor woman
Lootings, anger, riots have been documented to be different forms of revolts. It's a necessity for us in a the current context of radicalism of capitalism and rise of fascism to protect and support all types of revolts, breaking stuff included.
Peacefull protest have their limits. When a gov do not listen to you, despise you and repress you, it's is absolutely fundamental to understand where the interests of the capital lies and what we need to do collectively to prevent the worsening of the situation.
When the looters are gone, the next target of the power is you. Never forget that. These people are what scares the power, they are what creates a power balance in a situation of extrem tension. Yes, sometimes they go a bit too far, but no rebelellions are peacefull or clean.
Yes, you are right, I'm in the confort of my home at the moment. Reason more for me to be the voice of support of those who are targetted by the oppressive system. You need to understand that if a person like me supports them, there are real material and ethical reasons.
And it's not up to me to judge the form of revolt of those who have the courage to put their lives on the line to express their anger
Peacefull protest have their limits. When a gov do not listen to you, despise you and repress you, it's is absolutely fundamental to understand where the interests of the capital lies and what we need to do collectively to prevent the worsening of the situation.
When the looters are gone, the next target of the power is you. Never forget that. These people are what scares the power, they are what creates a power balance in a situation of extrem tension. Yes, sometimes they go a bit too far, but no rebelellions are peacefull or clean.
Sounds like the thoughts of a man sitting in comfort watching the city burn though his TV screen. What about that poor woman
And it's not up to me to judge the form of revolt of those who have the courage to put their lives on the line to express their anger
These two takes are literally contradicting each other. If less than 1% of protesters are looting or burning things, then you're arguing that it's a tiny minority that risks delegitimizing the legitimate cause of the protests. But Logiko is arguing that looting and rioting are necessary forms of revolt that should be supported and encouraged.
Y'all can't even agree on whether burning France down is counterproductive to your cause or the necessary first step to dismantling capitalism. Your ancestors are disappointed in you
Y'all can't even agree on whether burning France down is counterproductive to your cause or the necessary first step to dismantling capitalism. Your ancestors are disappointed in you
This is the tactic of the bourgeoisie to suppress the anger and the way it controls the far right. By blaming immigration, it allows them to control the racism of white working class and divert it from seeking anticapitalism.
Perhaps because Mathias wants to highlight the fact that there has been more than a million protestor this weekend instead of you focusing on the lootings and burnings.
I'm simply telling telling you that rioters are part of that protest. That's all.
Perhaps because Mathias wants to highlight the fact that there has been more than a million protestor this weekend instead of you focusing on the lootings and burnings.
I'm simply telling telling you that rioters are part of that protest. That's all.
What Logiko says kind of represents the tiny minority. Imagine if one fooking million people looted and burned stuff...
I'm not saying that the movement is less legit now btw. But I'd definitely say that the focus the right wing media are giving to a very tiny minority is trying to delegitimate the movement.
Why are people racist ?
I like how you censored the word French as if it was an insult
I'm not saying that the movement is less legit now btw. But I'd definitely say that the focus the right wing media are giving to a very tiny minority is trying to delegitimate the movement.
Why are people racist ?
I like how you censored the word French as if it was an insult
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What Logiko says kind of represents the tiny minority. Imagine if one fooking million people looted and burned stuff...
I'm not saying that the movement is less legit now btw. But I'd definitely say that the focus the right wing media are giving to a very tiny minority is trying to delegitimate the movement.
Why are people racist ?
I like how you censored the word French as if it was an insult
I'm not saying that the movement is less legit now btw. But I'd definitely say that the focus the right wing media are giving to a very tiny minority is trying to delegitimate the movement.
Why are people racist ?
I like how you censored the word French as if it was an insult
Learn from Fyre Festival, millions of dollars went into a scam that was demolished by a tweet from a kid with 36 followers. The clip of that crying woman is going more viral than any of the legit grievances people have. In 2026, the era of the super intelligence states, you can't just go the anarchy route. The system will eat you up. I just though there was more organization behind it this time around, but unfortunately it seems it'll just pass like every other time.
It is always a risk and that is what they have been doing for years without protest anyways. So no change there.
Actually we can. That's quite effective. Rioters made Macron speak for once. To say a bunch of BS as usual, but speak about the revendications nonetheless.
Why do you think people are rioting in the first place?
THe lack of organization in this case is precisely the reason why it was so impactfull. The police was lost, allowing rioters to change the power balance.
It is the impredictability of the revolt that is its strenght (for the moment at least)
Actually we can. That's quite effective. Rioters made Macron speak for once. To say a bunch of BS as usual, but speak about the revendications nonetheless.
Why do you think people are rioting in the first place?
THe lack of organization in this case is precisely the reason why it was so impactfull. The police was lost, allowing rioters to change the power balance.
It is the impredictability of the revolt that is its strenght (for the moment at least)
Have you even ever been in a protest with one million people ?
And no, not all the media, but the right wing media will keep breast-feeding their audience.
Anyway, you don't seem to understand that the movement is being discredited by right wingers ever since it started. Nothing has changed with yesterday except that it's increasing.
This woman crying for a monoprix isn't changing anything at all. Your argument is kind of childish because it's only based on a video becoming viral. Those who protest aren't gonna stop their march because a few others have looted a fucking monoprix. Or any other shop.
And no, not all the media, but the right wing media will keep breast-feeding their audience.
Anyway, you don't seem to understand that the movement is being discredited by right wingers ever since it started. Nothing has changed with yesterday except that it's increasing.
This woman crying for a monoprix isn't changing anything at all. Your argument is kind of childish because it's only based on a video becoming viral. Those who protest aren't gonna stop their march because a few others have looted a fucking monoprix. Or any other shop.
@Logiko @Mathias
Calling my argument childish because I'm referencing a viral video is missing the point. I'm not saying that a small percentage of protesters looting a shop will make a million people abandon the protest. The point is that these incidents give right wing media ammunition to discredit the protests and shift public attention away from what people are actually protesting about. The fact that they've been trying to discredit the movement from the beginning doesn't contradict my argument, It reinforces it. The video is an example of how this style of protest in 2026 is self defeating, even if it's a small percentage, due to the nature of how super intelligence states operate. The protesters continuing to march and the public perception of the movement are two completely different things.
Honestly, my whole point is considering how French philosophers have historically been pioneers in revolutionary thought and tactics (while getting pretty much everything else wrong lol), I was hoping to see a different vision of what they had in store could look like this time around. Something that actually challenges the status quo rather than repeating the same tactics that aren't going to accomplish anything.
Anyway, it is what it is, Macros still gets slapped by his most likely transgender dad who is posing as his wife (or at least that's what Andrew Tate told me)
Calling my argument childish because I'm referencing a viral video is missing the point. I'm not saying that a small percentage of protesters looting a shop will make a million people abandon the protest. The point is that these incidents give right wing media ammunition to discredit the protests and shift public attention away from what people are actually protesting about. The fact that they've been trying to discredit the movement from the beginning doesn't contradict my argument, It reinforces it. The video is an example of how this style of protest in 2026 is self defeating, even if it's a small percentage, due to the nature of how super intelligence states operate. The protesters continuing to march and the public perception of the movement are two completely different things.
Honestly, my whole point is considering how French philosophers have historically been pioneers in revolutionary thought and tactics (while getting pretty much everything else wrong lol), I was hoping to see a different vision of what they had in store could look like this time around. Something that actually challenges the status quo rather than repeating the same tactics that aren't going to accomplish anything.
Anyway, it is what it is, Macros still gets slapped by his most likely transgender dad who is posing as his wife (or at least that's what Andrew Tate told me)
There is no attention given to people who protest. Never. Without or with looters and rioters. Protestors are ridiculized, invibilized, despised.
Rioters simply give an excuze to the power to divert attention, they would have done it without or worse... ignored it.
No it does not. The point we are trying to make is that rioters scares the bourgoisie, it make them shit their pants, EVEN if they use it to divert the attention. Protestors have proven they could make the police back down. This is massive.
This is why it's important.
There are no hundreds of tactics against an oppressive force. Sometimes, you just need to go in.
Rioters simply give an excuze to the power to divert attention, they would have done it without or worse... ignored it.
No it does not. The point we are trying to make is that rioters scares the bourgoisie, it make them shit their pants, EVEN if they use it to divert the attention. Protestors have proven they could make the police back down. This is massive.
This is why it's important.
There are no hundreds of tactics against an oppressive force. Sometimes, you just need to go in.