Current Events Sanji vs King or Zoro vs King? Pros and cons.

[critical mindset]

imagine mihawk or zoro getting their swords shot out of their hands

The fact that King isnt said to be the strongest swordsman is a dead giveaway.

That’s King’s best and only swordsmanship feat, having such weak grip he loses to Izo’s bullet

It’s so sad Zoro fans want Zoro to fight him

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Does Sanji develop his stance on hitting women and beat Big Mom?

He already did. He joined in on the défense with Luffy which means Sanji’s Diable Jambe is G3 level because he actually does not want to hurt BM (a “woman”) so he needs to nerf himself by not going with his utmost power move

 

[Chrono]

The fact he's obviously the strongest swordsman is a dead giveaway.

The fact that he hasnt even used it nor cared about it is a dead giveaway.

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King....like all DF users....use their powers and the sword is just a secondary tool. His sword is probably for fodder control.

 

[Albino 👑]

Have them both fight him

 

[CbShadow]

He is a kicker first and foremost with swordsmanship coming in second, yet he was owned by Sanji in a kicking match, so it would make sense for him to face Zoro actually while Sanji goes finishing off bigger fry

The first time we saw Kaku attack he performed a kicking attack.

The first and only time Kaku attacked Sanji he performed a kicking attack.

Yet, he's a swordsman like King. Just because King has kicked doesn't mean he's not a swordsman or that swordsmanship is not his main fighting style.

PS: Imagine people believeing King swordsmanship is secondary and kicking attacks is his main fighting style because a former WB division commander gunslinger surprised attacked him while he was drunk decided to shoot his swords out of his hand, limiting his swordsmanship, instead of aiming for his legs.

 

[critical mindset]

The first time we saw Kaku attack he performed a kicking attack.

The first and only time Kaku attacked Sanji he performed a kicking attack.

Yet, he's a swordsman like King. Just because King has kicked doesn't mean he's not a swordsman or that swordsmanship is not his main fighting style.

Then he went on to fight Zoro with swords not long after. Against Sanji he never pulled his sword, instead he decided to try to choke him but failed miserably. His best sword feat is losing it to a bullet. It’d be surprising if he were a swordsman of any notable skill lol. Hell, didn’t Izo shot a bullet at a random marine fodder’s sword at MF, and he didn’t lose his grip? lol, at least marine fodders train their grip strength more than King

 

[HA001]

Then he went on to fight Zoro with swords not long after. Against Sanji he never pulled his sword, instead he decided to try to choke him but failed miserably. His best sword feat is losing it to a bullet. It’d be surprising if he were a swordsman of any notable skill lol. Hell, didn’t Izo shot a bullet at a random marine fodder’s sword at MF, and he didn’t lose his grip? lol, at least marine fodders train their grip strength more than King

Neko disarmed kaido.
The same kaido that one shot boundman.

 

[CbShadow]

Then he went on to fight Zoro with swords not long after. Against Sanji he never pulled his sword, instead he decided to try to choke him but failed miserably. His best sword feat is losing it to a bullet. It’d be surprising if he were a swordsman of any notable skill lol. Hell, didn’t Izo shot a bullet at a random marine fodder’s sword at MF, and he didn’t lose his grip? lol, at least marine fodders train their grip strength more than King

Not long after? Kaku didn't show off his swordsmanship or prove he was a swordsman until Enies Lobby.

King never used his sword or really tried against Sanji. King easily blocked Sanji's kick and then overpowered his kick with his leg. That's why just was forced to knee King. King then grabbed him around about a neck and pushed through a building. He never cared about Sanji or Momo. That's why you need to go after Momo.

Izu us a powerful and skilled gunslinger. He has slicing bullets that can pierce Kaido skin.

When Izu attacked King he aimed for his sword not legs. That tells us which one he considers a bigger threat.

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Neko disarmed kaido.
The same kaido that one shot boundman.

I forgot about that.

I guess Kaido has a fodder grip too. That's must be a beast pirates thing.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

The fact that he hasnt even used it nor cared about it is a dead giveaway.

The fact these are not real arguments is a dead giveaway.

King....like all DF users....use their powers and the sword is just a secondary tool. His sword is probably for fodder control.

If it were for fodder control, he'd use it on Sanji.

You're either trolling or just reaching if you're resulting to this pure swordsman mumbo jumbo.

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Sentinel: "King has a sword thus is a swordsman."
Sanji Fans: "Fuck off! I don't believe in that shit!"

TAC: "Suck it Mihawk fans! Roger has a sword thus is swordsman!"
Sanji Fans: "OMG! So true!"

 

[critical mindset]

Not long after? Kaku didn't show off his swordsmanship or prove he was a swordsman until Enies Lobby.

Yeah really?

King never used his sword or really tried against Sanji. King easily blocked Sanji's kick and then overpowered his kick with his leg. That's why just was forced to knee King. King then grabbed him around about a neck and pushed through a building. He never cared about Sanji or Momo. That's why you need to go after Momo.

King told everyone to kill Momo. Of course he cared, wtf you talking about? Both King and Sanji used haki. King was on the offensive while Sanji had to save and hold on to Momo. Sanji was the one that was restrained by circumstance while King was going all out, looking like a bum

Izu us a powerful and skilled gunslinger. He has slicing bullets that can pierce Kaido skin.

No, King just has no grip strength to speak of. That’s why he tickled Sanji with his chokehold

Neko disarmed kaido.
The same kaido that one shot boundman.

Kaido at the least is always drunk and unprepared, unlike King who was looking straight at Inu and failed to react and maintain his grip. And a bullet even irl carries a lot less power than let’s say a punch from an experienced boxer, so even if we try to scale, Neko’s hit should be a lot harder

 

[Akuma_Law]

Was this thread before or after the Sanji and King clash

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Was this thread before or after the Sanji and King clash

Before I think.

 

[CbShadow]

Yeah really?

King told everyone to kill Momo. Of course he cared, wtf you talking about? Both King and Sanji used haki. King was on the offensive while Sanji had to save and hold on to Momo. Sanji was the one that was restrained by circumstance while King was going all out, looking like a bum



No, King just has no grip strength to speak of. That’s why he tickled Sanji with his chokehold

Kaido at the least is always drunk and unprepared, unlike King who was looking straight at Inu and failed to react and maintain his grip. And a bullet even irl carries a lot less power than let’s say a punch from an experienced boxer, so even if we try to scale, Neko’s hit should be a lot harder

Those aren't swords or even blade weapons. That's no different than King using his beak.

King didn't even bother to go after Momo. It wasn't until later that he decided to have Momo killed to break the samurai's will. King and Sanji clash didn't contain haki. Never ever clash with black line means haki. There was nothing special about it that clashed. King pushed Sanji through the building and went on with his day.

King wasn't trying to kill Sanji, who had it's powerful RS. If he was Sanji would be dead.

Kaido and King were in the same situation. They were surprised, partying and drinking. You don't know how much power a bullet from a one piece character that can add ryuo to it contains. It had as much power as Oda wanted it to have.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

King wasn't trying to kill Sanji, who had it's powerful RS. If he was Sanji would be dead.

He was explicitly trying to open a hole in his belly. Of course he was trying to kill him.

 

[critical mindset]

Those aren't swords or even blade weapons. That's no different than King using his beak.

That means Kaku was able to clash against swords using meat cleavers, yes that demonstrates perfectly well how he would make for a fine swordsman. Insanely flawed logic you’ve got there lol

King didn't even bother to go after Momo. It wasn't until later that he decided to have Momo killed to break the samurai's will. King and Sanji clash didn't contain haki. Never ever clash with black line means haki. There was nothing special about it that clashed. King pushed Sanji through the building and went on with his day.

They used haki. I’ve posted the panels where I highlighted the sound that indicates metals are clashing , same one used for haki clashes. King was wholly serious against Sanji

 

[Chrono]

The fact these are not real arguments is a dead giveaway.

The fact that also applies to you is a dead giveaway.

The fact these are not real arguments is a dead giveaway.



If it were for fodder control, he'd use it on Sanji.

You're either trolling or just reaching if you're resulting to this pure swordsman mumbo jumbo.

He wouldnt since Sanjj isnt fodder and King didnt have his sword.

 

[CbShadow]

He was explicitly trying to open a hole in his belly. Of course he was trying to kill him.

Then why didn't he confirm If he had killed Sanji?

That means Kaku was able to clash against swords using meat cleavers, yes that demonstrates perfectly well how he would make for a fine swordsman. Insanely flawed logic you’ve got there lol



They used haki. I’ve posted the panels where I highlighted the sound that indicates metals are clashing , same one used for haki clashes. King was wholly serious against Sanji

Those are not meat cleavers those are shipwright tools and there's really only way one way to use them, you going to try to cut somebody with them. But that's fine because you are acknowledging that when Kaku fought Zoro he was using swordsmamship. We haven't seen King fight Zoro yet so when he does and he uses his sword then you must acknowledge that he's swordsman.

King and Sanji clash did not contain haki. There's nothing to support that.

 

[critical mindset]

King and Sanji clash did not contain haki. There's nothing to support that.

Attacking Momo with haki which Sanji blocks whioe grabbing Momo. The 1 ring is the middle part of King’s shin, and the second ring indicates the same sound that occurs when haki users clash.

Blocking again with his knee the second time and the black visual effects are again visible which means both use haki. The sound effect is a louder, more violent one suggesting Sanji yet again blocked King’s hakied up and fully powered up kick. He is expressing some discomfort but that’s to be expected holding onto Momo. Sanji is ina predicament having to shuffle Momo around

Again, King is looking like trash here. He wouldn’t have looked as bad if he would’ve used his sword to take down Big Chanter but no he actually kicked it down the waterfall. Sanji bested him here

Those are not meat cleavers those are shipwright tools and there's really only way one way to use them, you going to try to cut somebody with them. But that's fine because you are acknowledging that when Kaku fought Zoro he was using swordsmamship. We haven't seen King fight Zoro yet so when he does and he uses his sword then you must acknowledge that he's swordsman.

So a shipwright squares equally with a swordsman, so wtf are you even arguing?

King is not a swordsman in as much as a karate black belt is a grappler. It’s secondary or even tertiary compared to devil fruit mastery

 

[kurwa]

King didn't even bother to go after Momo

Literally flies after Sanji who has Momo

It wasn't until later that he decided to have Momo killed to break the samurai's will

No. Momo's death was decided the moment Momo said his name. That was the whole point of that scene.
Momo chose death instead of refusing his name.

King wasn't trying to kill Sanji, who had it's powerful RS. If he was Sanji would be dead.

Tell me what "I will split you in two" means?

Kaido and King were in the same situation. They were surprised, partying and drinking.

They were standing still. No drinking, no partying. Don't make up bs.
King has never been shown partying nor drinking. He's not Queen.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

The fact that also applies to you is a dead giveaway.

The fact you just admitted you have no real argument is a dead giveaway.

 

[Chrono]

The fact you just admitted you have no real argument is a dead giveaway.

The fact that I was talking about your statement in general and not how it applies to me is a dead giveaway.