Character Discussion Zoro’s sudden dislike of fighting women

[Sir Yasheen]

So in Punk Hazard Zoro suddenly gained a distaste of fighting women weaker than him.

Where did this come from because it seemed incredibly out of character for Zoro? Zoro doesn’t care to hold back, Zoro never cared male or female he slice down whatever stands in his way.

And this preference against fighting women have yet to come in to play since that one scene with Monet. So why did Zoro suddenly care? Was this weird for anyone else?

 

[Fuckthis3]

Sanji and oda doesn't want show the main male characters give pretty woman domestic violence

 

[Enma]

He doesn't care if you are woman or man. He cares whether you are weakling or not.

 

[Chrono]

He was always like that

 

[Shuyaku]

He was always like that

Corny moment ngl, he pulled an EL Sanji there

 

[Finalbeta]

It's about Kuina I think.

He is still mad for her death that's why. However he makes no distinction about women and men unlike Sanji does, and this is also why he is mad at him when it happens.

So overall this should explain the whole thing.

Zoro would not entirely hesitate to kill a woman I think, but technically no one would in the series IIRC.

 

[Darkoplax]

it's not about Kuina , idk how you read a 900+ chapter manga and not come at the same conclusion that Oda simply refuse to make a men fight/hurt a woman

Oda literally has a character that's centered around that in Sanji but in reality in 90% of the time everyone ain't fighting girls ... that's one more reason to want to have Yamato in the crew so she get matched up against strong females

Oda dude literally switched Ivankov into a woman in Impel down just so he/She can fight the girl guard


Like as far as I remember the few times a girl has been harmed by a man weren't really in a fight but to make emotional moments like Boa and the Celestials or Luffy slapping Vivi

 

[Fn Lucci]

*shrug*

Women can hardly ever compete with men physically. You can knock Oda because this is a fantasy story that doesn't have to reflect real life, but it does in that way.

Kalifa was stronger than many of the men we'd seen up to the early Grand Line, while Hancock was far above the competitive strength we'd seen in the first half of the series. Big Mom is the highest tier and many of her daughters are strong enough to be bosses. But for the most part race and gender provide significant advantages.

Zoro is aware of this and it holds special meaning to him because of what happened with Kuina. He's really not proud of that advantage and I think that if anyone was to respect a strong female opponent, it'd be him. But so far he tends to come across situations where the women can't compete (Whiskey Peak, Punk Hazard) so he believes in restraint.

His reaction to Ener makes sense even without this context. If you saw a pro fighter kicking a woman's ass, I think you'd find it particularly abhorrent even if they could kick your ass just the same.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

ZoLo is a beta simp
Only Luffy a true alpha
:laughmoji:

 

[Fn Lucci]

Luffy is maybe a little weirder in that his sympathy for Fujitora seemed to come from nowhere

 

[Afroking]

As said by others,it is done because Oda doesn't like his Male MC use excessive force that would hurt Females physically and be clear to the naked eye.
Oda had shown his intentions from way back on Arlong park,through Sanji.

 

[BakiDou]

Dudes, relax, we all know that only sanji refuses to fight women seriously, right? right?....
Well, I think that oda's made it pretty clear that he doesn't like violence against women(especially men fighting women), if you managed to read this manga, and you don't see that, maybe you need a pair of glasses.
There are some exceptions of course(big mom), but even this exception is debatable. Otherwise, oda tries as much as possible to keep women from fighting men.

 

[Albino 👑]

Still dont like it tbh
He and sanji seem to be the only strawhats with a problem with doin it. Sanji is definitely more extreme about it but at least hes more upfront about it. With it kinda making sense with his history

Zoro would still cut down a woman before sanji lays his hands on one tho so 🤷‍♀️. But yeah with his history with kuina i feel like he should be the last one pushing the whole "fighting women bad" thing

Like hes more ok cutting down random fodder than speed whos at least a headliner in comparison

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Because Zoro was spoiled by Sanji

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

dont think oda will ever write a major fight with any of the male main characters fighting a woman seriously.
for this reason
I dont think luffy takes down big mom either.
its really just the way it is.

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one exception seems to be women who arent conventionally attractive tho
so bigmom might still be in the books lol. forgot about alvida.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

He already showed this in Skypiea when Enel knocked out Robin.
Actually this makes no sense at all, for me at least, considering his story with Kuina. It's contradictory and is like he is looking down on Kuina too in some way.

 

[Chrono]

Its cause hes scared Sanji will beat tf outta him.

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dont think oda will ever write a major fight with any of the male main characters fighting a woman seriously.
for this reason
I dont think luffy takes down big mom either.
its really just the way it is.

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one exception seems to be women who arent conventionally attractive tho
so bigmom might still be in the books lol. forgot about alvida.

Dude legit made Hancock fall in love with Luffy....just so they dont have to fight lol.

 

[Sentinel]

He was always like that

Enel is an advocate of true gender equality.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Still dont like it tbh
He and sanji seem to be the only strawhats with a problem with doin it. Sanji is definitely more extreme about it but at least hes more upfront about it. With it kinda making sense with his history

Zoro would still cut down a woman before sanji lays his hands on one tho so 🤷‍♀️. But yeah with his history with kuina i feel like he should be the last one pushing the whole "fighting women bad" thing

Like hes more ok cutting down random fodder than speed whos at least a headliner in comparison

This is why I can't take this "women shouldn't be hurted" in one Piece seriously
If this was a realistic I would get it, but this is a series where fishmen who are 10X times stronger than a Human are treated like fodder, irl the average woman has 60% the strength of the average man. That's how ridiculous the gap between people are in One Piece, yet the (in verse)small gap Between men and Women is still a big deal? You don't see Jinbei refusing to hurt Humans because of how insanely stronger the average Fishmen are from the Average human, a Gap that's literally bigger than the gap between men and Gorillas irl. Zoro literally has zero issues behaving like a sadist against fodder much much weaker than say Monet, yet he acts like he can't hurt weaker people when it comes to women

Zoro is pretty much pissing on Kuina's grave by behaving like this, with Sanji at least it makes sense since his abusive dad and Zeff's teachings Molded him like this.

 

[Albino 👑]

This is why I can't take this "women shouldn't be hurted" in one Piece seriously
If this was a realistic I would get it, but this is a series where fishmen who are 10X times stronger than a Human are treated like fodder, irl the average woman has 60% the strength of the average man. That's how ridiculous the gap between people are in One Piece, yet the (in verse)small gap Between men and Women is still a big deal? You don't see Jinbei refusing to hurt Humans because of how insanely stronger the average Fishmen are from the Average human, a Gap that's literally bigger than the gap between men and Gorillas irl. Zoro literally has zero issues behaving like a sadist against fodder much much weaker than say Monet, yet he acts like he can't hurt weaker people when it comes to women

Zoro is pretty much pissing on Kuina's grave by behaving like this, with Sanji at least it makes sense since his abusive dad and Zeff's teachings Molded him like this.

100% feel the same
We got humans fodderizing giants, mink, ect but the line is crossed when it comes to women being stronger than men?? Like thats honestly stupid

Zoro as a child was even calling bullshit on the women being inferior thing kuina was being taught to believe. Even then if we took it as 100% fact like men vs a Fishman in a world full of devil fruits, haki, science, ect there are hella ways to make up for it.

At the very least even if zoro never fights a strong female swordsman again i at least hope the next wss after zoro could be a woman. Itd be cool if zoro trained her like mihawk did him for a bit.

Just imagine in a world full of of people accomplishing ridiculous ass "impossible" dreams a woman being wss would cross the line. Imagine kuina and tashigi being right.
That would be the saddest shit lol