Current Events Sanji vs King or Zoro vs King? Pros and cons.
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How do you know he doesn't? He barely did anything. We have no concrete elements to judge his primary style until he takes a serious fight.
However it truly doesn't matter either way. His sword is not an occasional tool he carries, so he is 100% a swordsman. Why would he even carry a sword all the time differently? Because he actually uses it, and not once in a while, hence not occasionally. Differently, that would be unnecessary stuff to carry.
Even in the worst scenario he preferred his zoan powers, he would still be considerable as a swordsman.
However it truly doesn't matter either way. His sword is not an occasional tool he carries, so he is 100% a swordsman. Why would he even carry a sword all the time differently? Because he actually uses it, and not once in a while, hence not occasionally. Differently, that would be unnecessary stuff to carry.
Even in the worst scenario he preferred his zoan powers, he would still be considerable as a swordsman.
Like @critical mindset just said. Kuroobi being martial artist...carried a sword. Wanze who used Ramen Kenpo, also carried a sword like weapon. It meant nothing at the end of the day....and Sanji still defeated them both.
King lost his sword, and hes not bothered in retrieving it.
King lost his sword, and hes not bothered in retrieving it.
So they're martial artists who double as swordsman.
You and your false equivalences. We don't see Kuroobi practice swordsmanship outside of Nami's flashback, and even then, there's no proof he's stronger than Hatchan. Wanze isn't a main opponent like Kaku and Jabra are, so he's a moot point.
When? After Izo shot it out of his hand? He's wearing it a chapter after it "lost it."
You and your false equivalences. We don't see Kuroobi practice swordsmanship outside of Nami's flashback, and even then, there's no proof he's stronger than Hatchan. Wanze isn't a main opponent like Kaku and Jabra are, so he's a moot point.
When? After Izo shot it out of his hand? He's wearing it a chapter after it "lost it."
Literally flies after Sanji who has Momo
No. Momo's death was decided the moment Momo said his name. That was the whole point of that scene.
Momo chose death instead of refusing his name.
Tell me what "I will split you in two" means?
They were standing still. No drinking, no partying. Don't make up bs.
King has never been shown partying nor drinking. He's not Queen.
No. Momo's death was decided the moment Momo said his name. That was the whole point of that scene.
Momo chose death instead of refusing his name.
Tell me what "I will split you in two" means?
They were standing still. No drinking, no partying. Don't make up bs.
King has never been shown partying nor drinking. He's not Queen.
King was going to let Kaido kill him but later changed his mind. That's why he told the F6 to find and kill Momo.
King crashed Sanji into a building and moved on. He didn't even bother to see if Sanji was dead. That's how little he cared.
We know the party started before the attack started and nobody can say what everybody was doing before. Just because you wouldn't show to be drinking at that moment doesn't mean he wasn't.
But he couldn't because of Sanji, that's the point
If he didn't care for Momo he wouldn't have went after Sanji in the first place.
C'mon man, this is embarrassing
The goal was always to execute Momo.
You have no idea what happened off screen. Sanji could have kicked King flying for all we know.
You told King wasn't trying to kill Sanji, now answer me what that quote meant.
Dude, he has full body mask on. Yes he wasn't drinking at that time.
If he didn't care for Momo he wouldn't have went after Sanji in the first place.
C'mon man, this is embarrassing
The goal was always to execute Momo.
You have no idea what happened off screen. Sanji could have kicked King flying for all we know.
You told King wasn't trying to kill Sanji, now answer me what that quote meant.
Dude, he has full body mask on. Yes he wasn't drinking at that time.
Attacking Momo with haki which Sanji blocks whioe grabbing Momo. The 1 ring is the middle part of King’s shin, and the second ring indicates the same sound that occurs when haki users clash.
Blocking again with his knee the second time and the black visual effects are again visible which means both use haki. The sound effect is a louder, more violent one suggesting Sanji yet again blocked King’s hakied up and fully powered up kick. He is expressing some discomfort but that’s to be expected holding onto Momo. Sanji is ina predicament having to shuffle Momo around
Again, King is looking like trash here. He wouldn’t have looked as bad if he would’ve used his sword to take down Big Chanter but no he actually kicked it down the waterfall. Sanji bested him here
So a shipwright squares equally with a swordsman, so wtf are you even arguing?
King is not a swordsman in as much as a karate black belt is a grappler. It’s secondary or even tertiary compared to devil fruit mastery
Blocking again with his knee the second time and the black visual effects are again visible which means both use haki. The sound effect is a louder, more violent one suggesting Sanji yet again blocked King’s hakied up and fully powered up kick. He is expressing some discomfort but that’s to be expected holding onto Momo. Sanji is ina predicament having to shuffle Momo around
Again, King is looking like trash here. He wouldn’t have looked as bad if he would’ve used his sword to take down Big Chanter but no he actually kicked it down the waterfall. Sanji bested him here
So a shipwright squares equally with a swordsman, so wtf are you even arguing?
King is not a swordsman in as much as a karate black belt is a grappler. It’s secondary or even tertiary compared to devil fruit mastery
RS Sanji looked weak against King who wasn't even kicking.
It doesn't matter if Kaku was using those shipwright tools or bats. It would have been used the same way. In the end, Kaku didn't use swords until he fought Zoro during Enies Lobby. King is a swordsman. That information is official.
You should listen to what you are saying.
You are claiming that Sanji would not kick King, who was moving towards him, to protect Momo. Sanji was it a kicking stance. He was leading with his heel, that is how you perform that type of kick. King was blocking with his shin.
Why would King kick Sanji or Momo? He wouldn't. He would ha e grabbed them like he did.
You are claiming that Sanji would not kick King, who was moving towards him, to protect Momo. Sanji was it a kicking stance. He was leading with his heel, that is how you perform that type of kick. King was blocking with his shin.
Why would King kick Sanji or Momo? He wouldn't. He would ha e grabbed them like he did.
Because wanting to kill someone doesn't intrinsically carry a meticulous scrutiny of whether you've achieved it or not, just like tons of real world people survived shootings that were aiming at their lives but had the luck, the strength or whatever to survive. Not everything has to follow a flawless modus operandi: these are people, not perfect machines following unbased rules on what a killing intent consists on. Again, King explicitly said he wanted to tore him apart; that's a very clear killing intent, and it's not like Kaido's top subordinate who was described as a sadistic bastard would have any reason to not want to assassinate an enemy while under direct attack (an enemy that in no way will be killed because of his condition of main character, anyways).
Its kinda Stupid With the way you put it lol , Afloat Or Not He can still Change His Course and Decide it the way He sees Fit , Sanji Might Not Have had a Good aerial Battle But his Fights Have the possibility To go and Explore that side of His Prowess and Honestly Oda Should Take this Chance, Marco Shouldn't Have A Much Bigger Role than The Straw hats , I have seen him Fight In Marineford and It would be 10x More Interesting to see King Fight a Strawhat ,Altho i do see your Marco Point, Regarding Zoro It would be Plain Daft In my opinion , The Antags key feature of Being able to fly Not be used just for the sake of Plot armour For Zoro , So Yeah No Thanks
A Portable Fighter should Logically Only Fight One similar to Him ,Zoro had Heck of a Trouble With Pics Due to him Being Extremely Portable and Mobile , I would Hate To see King Face Zoro Only For Plot Armour To Limit What King can Actually Do Just for the sake of Zoro emerging The Victor
Also Imo Zoro will Play a Bigger role with Him Now Being handed the enma and All That , So i am Assuming Sanji Will fight King
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A Portable Fighter should Logically Only Fight One similar to Him ,Zoro had Heck of a Trouble With Pics Due to him Being Extremely Portable and Mobile , I would Hate To see King Face Zoro Only For Plot Armour To Limit What King can Actually Do Just for the sake of Zoro emerging The Victor
Also Imo Zoro will Play a Bigger role with Him Now Being handed the enma and All That , So i am Assuming Sanji Will fight King
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Sanji will go from getting his leg broken by Vergo, clowned by Doflamingo, clowned slightly less by King thanks to Raidsuit to defeating a Yonko's heavy hitter, but Zoro overcoming a supposed weakness of mobility will have a lot of asspulls. These aren't reasons; these are excuses.
And if King flies away from Zoro, King is a bigger joke than Smoothie and we deserve Jo_Ndule's ridicule for calling him Kaido's Katakuri.
And if King flies away from Zoro, King is a bigger joke than Smoothie and we deserve Jo_Ndule's ridicule for calling him Kaido's Katakuri.
