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We know Flamabge Shot was Sanjis strongest attack Pre Timeskip because all the straw hats used their strongest attacks pre time skip to take down the pacifista............ Or did you forget that ?
IIRC Luffy used a G3 bazooka against Oars. Bazooka has been stronger than rifle since their base forms.
The Asura Zoro used against the Pacifista canmot be factually said to be stronger than the one he used against Kaku.
Then comes to Sanji who performed a more impressive attack against Oars in TB.
The above regardless. Even if that attack was Sanji's strongest preskip, it would be irrelevant because he has shown his ultimate technique postskip. Therefore flambage shot is bound to be weaker than Hell memories.
Is Flambage shot weaker than Hell Memories? I think We need to see the Post Timeskip version of the following attacks in the manga before we come to the conclusion of Sanjis strongest attack. When we see these attacks post time skip I wonder if you'll still say Hell Memories is Sanjis best attack......
Is Flambage shot weaker than Hell Memories? I think We need to see the Post Timeskip version of the following attacks in the manga before we come to the conclusion of Sanjis strongest attack. When we see these attacks post time skip I wonder if you'll still say Hell Memories is Sanjis best attack......
Sanji could fight on an equal footing with veterans even without the DJ, that means Sanji's limit is above the veteran level. Characters like Jinbe, Vergo, Urouge, Snack, Ichiji are the characters whose must push Sanji to an extreme diff.
Some time ago I was still entirely sure that Zoro would have Asura left and that it's an actual combat mode now... I'm not as convinced anymore. but I still got hope.
Other than that..
Sanji's fire game all along should have been a source for a wider variety of different power ups.. It's like, if he wants to, he can engulf gigantic creatures in flames (HM), but for no apparent reason he's still only using a fraction of that same power all the time (DJ).
It's either go all out or keep it at the bare minimum, but seemingly nothing inbetween.
Luckily a new "poele a frire"-move was teased in WCI. So this might overtake that job.
So yeah, imo Asura for Zoro and some better than DJ fire based moves for Sanji are still legit possibilities.
Other than that..
Sanji's fire game all along should have been a source for a wider variety of different power ups.. It's like, if he wants to, he can engulf gigantic creatures in flames (HM), but for no apparent reason he's still only using a fraction of that same power all the time (DJ).
It's either go all out or keep it at the bare minimum, but seemingly nothing inbetween.
Luckily a new "poele a frire"-move was teased in WCI. So this might overtake that job.
So yeah, imo Asura for Zoro and some better than DJ fire based moves for Sanji are still legit possibilities.
There's no worry about Zoro's Asura disposability in my opinion. Asura is indeed a mode as we know, not a single attack. And a mode can't be forgotten or vanish like nothing, he simply never felt like triggering it.
There's no sensible way to believe he magically lost it; and who knows, perhaps it will be shown as a manifest of CoC.
There's no sensible way to believe he magically lost it; and who knows, perhaps it will be shown as a manifest of CoC.
Tbh Diable Jambe hasn't been explored in actual 1v1 combat yet, After it's introduced at the end of sanji's fight in Enies Lobby we never see Sanji with diable jambe in a full 1v1 fight again. A 1v1 Fight for Sanji with his new mastery of diable jambe is what we need to see. To Actually know how diable jambe works and what attacks are his strongest,
Sanji got the worst training out of all of them. He doesn't even got trained by Ivankov personally and have to trained by himself.
Is Flambage shot weaker than Hell Memories? I think We need to see the Post Timeskip version of the following attacks in the manga before we come to the conclusion of Sanjis strongest attack. When we see these attacks post time skip I wonder if you'll still say Hell Memories is Sanjis best attack......
How would his Suit boost his DJ? When does it say the suit boosts his Attack Power? If he doesn’t use the boosters they’re just normal kicks
And yet Zoro got training and a power up of haki due to Enma so any attack he does now will be because of that training.
I’m using the same logic as you it just doesn’t make sense no matter who you attribute it to.
And yet Zoro got training and a power up of haki due to Enma so any attack he does now will be because of that training.
I’m using the same logic as you it just doesn’t make sense no matter who you attribute it to.
Because his siblings get the abilities boosted by their RS. Again even without using boosters, the RS adds durability. More durability = Sanji being able to hit harder...hence all his attacks get stronger.
Again you are misunderstanding the point. I haven't argued that Zoro hasn't gotten stronger through his training. Him getting stronger through said training is irrelevant to the fact that he hasn't used his ultimate technique.
Again you are misunderstanding the point. I haven't argued that Zoro hasn't gotten stronger through his training. Him getting stronger through said training is irrelevant to the fact that he hasn't used his ultimate technique.