Powers & Abilities Pre-Wano Luffy CoA vs Zoro CoA
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I would say that Luffy has the best CoO but Zoro the best CoA (both current versions).
Their TS trainings were comparable haki developing wise. One was harsher (Zoro's), cause the survival rate was inferior, the other more well structured (Luffy's) cause Rayleigh was more present as a master I bet. However Mihawk was the stronger teacher.
Either way Zoro's Enma training empowered his CoA more than Luffy did recently, cause Zoro underwent an actual training.
Their TS trainings were comparable haki developing wise. One was harsher (Zoro's), cause the survival rate was inferior, the other more well structured (Luffy's) cause Rayleigh was more present as a master I bet. However Mihawk was the stronger teacher.
Either way Zoro's Enma training empowered his CoA more than Luffy did recently, cause Zoro underwent an actual training.
One thing I will say is that it would be much harder to notice the consequences of your haki getting bested when you primarily fight with top of the line katana
These same high grade katana Zoro utilized pre time skip, before CoA, would rarely be in danger of getting damaged due simply to the high quality of the blade. And so now with only even the slightest of reinforcements(added with CoA) it’s safe to assume they’d be similarly safe from something like getting your blade bit into by Hody
Would Zoro’s CoA protect his flesh from a Yonko commander’s sword strike if he had no weapons to defend? I’m unsure; although it seems like Zoro is more adept at applying haki to his weapons(controlling the flow of haki) while Luffy has more feats reinforcing his own person, as well as feats where he makes up for the difference in hardness with superior force/striking potency
Either way, whether you pick pre Wano Luffy or current Zoro; based on Apoo blocking his sword with a tonfa; it’s clear that Zoro’s own top tier applied striking force may make his haki look greater than it is when it’s just Zoro’s sword techniques being that strong and not necessarily just his haki
Imho it’s definitely overlooked how applied striking force is just as important as your haki’s hardness. If that wasn’t the case than Marigold dookies on Amazon lily Luffy, and Luffy receives way more obvious physical strength buffs rather than just haki flow control.
These same high grade katana Zoro utilized pre time skip, before CoA, would rarely be in danger of getting damaged due simply to the high quality of the blade. And so now with only even the slightest of reinforcements(added with CoA) it’s safe to assume they’d be similarly safe from something like getting your blade bit into by Hody
Would Zoro’s CoA protect his flesh from a Yonko commander’s sword strike if he had no weapons to defend? I’m unsure; although it seems like Zoro is more adept at applying haki to his weapons(controlling the flow of haki) while Luffy has more feats reinforcing his own person, as well as feats where he makes up for the difference in hardness with superior force/striking potency
Either way, whether you pick pre Wano Luffy or current Zoro; based on Apoo blocking his sword with a tonfa; it’s clear that Zoro’s own top tier applied striking force may make his haki look greater than it is when it’s just Zoro’s sword techniques being that strong and not necessarily just his haki
Imho it’s definitely overlooked how applied striking force is just as important as your haki’s hardness. If that wasn’t the case than Marigold dookies on Amazon lily Luffy, and Luffy receives way more obvious physical strength buffs rather than just haki flow control.
Zorro had better control with Ryou while Luffy's was way stronger. I doubt Zorro even at his best at least before he masters Enma could dish out more cutting and piercing power than Doffy who was ridiculous in that regard and could spam incredibly powerful cuts and piercing attacks casually even without using Haki, I mean his DF is nothing but that, which Luffy no sold with his Haki alone and no blade, cutting or piercing attack of his own or some kind of special body. And he's been going against stronger Haki users ever since.
If anything the only argument is since Zorro had Ryou maybe projecting it into base Haki is effective but as far a power Luffy's COA is way stronger and as of right now there is not contest.
If anything the only argument is since Zorro had Ryou maybe projecting it into base Haki is effective but as far a power Luffy's COA is way stronger and as of right now there is not contest.
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Is the strongest PostTS.
Ashura we don't know if he can use Haki with it since is some spiritual stuff, which we don't have any example of that things coated with CoA, so that's why probably he didn't have that capacity at that point. If he had Ashura + CoA, he would throw a flying slash from the mountain to Pica's golem and wouldn't need for someone to throw him away.
Ashura we don't know if he can use Haki with it since is some spiritual stuff, which we don't have any example of that things coated with CoA, so that's why probably he didn't have that capacity at that point. If he had Ashura + CoA, he would throw a flying slash from the mountain to Pica's golem and wouldn't need for someone to throw him away.
Pica was confident about taking that slash which cut his golem.
So Zoro's last attack > previous attacks
Luffy couldn't win Ulti in physical contest, the G4 was because he needed to break out of Ulti's grip (same thing as when he used it for breaking out of Doflamingo Parasite). G3 is enough to knock her down for some seconds like with P1.
So Zoro's last attack > previous attacks
Luffy couldn't win Ulti in physical contest, the G4 was because he needed to break out of Ulti's grip (same thing as when he used it for breaking out of Doflamingo Parasite). G3 is enough to knock her down for some seconds like with P1.
"I hope you don't think you have beat me just because you've cut my "stone"!!!" -> reference to the previous slashes
"There is no way you'll be able to cut me now that i'm shielding myself with Haki" -> confidence about his defence against the previous cuts.
Now make the maths.
"I hope you don't think you have beat me just because you've cut my "stone"!!!" -> reference to the previous slashes
"There is no way you'll be able to cut me now that i'm shielding myself with Haki" -> confidence about his defence against the previous cuts.
Now make the maths.