Thats not concasse....the kick lands on the neck if anything its collier......nice try tho. If someone who's name is electric bluewith electricity abilities wasn't Faster than Skywalk( that Sanji hasn't even mastered) that would be odd. Niji's speed isn't gonna help him beat Sanji in a fight, Sanji is still fast himself and Sanji has observation haki. Blitzing fodder will never be impressive Carrot did that same thing on a grander scale.
Since when hasn’t Sanji mastered skywalk? Holy shit you Sanji fans get more desperate by the day . Sanjis trash the sooner you get over it you can stop embarrassing yourself on these Internet forums sooner
Jimbei has feats against top tiers...........infact jimbei has better feats than Luffy against top tiers. Taming Oden sword is not good enough portrayal. You still haven't said a single thing that puts Zoro above Jimbei other than you wanting Zoro to be 2nd.
Yea Sanji hasn't shown that probably because Sanji hasn't fought G2/G3 Luffy....... lmao. Do you know how many people have finessed Gear2/Gear3 Luffy? Thats not a feat...... Ulti was about to make Luffy use Gear 4. are u really saying Yamato sneaking someone engaged in combat, Using a named attack and not defeating them is more impressive than Sanji clashing with a Tobi roppo On guard and not using any named attacks? lol
It is better portrayal when no one in Wano has been able to accomplish such a feat
He doesn't have to fight G2/G3 Luffy for such a conclusion to be made. Ulti was in a2 v 1 against G2/G3 Luffy but nice try ignoring that.
Sanji sneaked Page 1 with his final attack and his first attack
Thats not concasse....the kick lands on the neck if anything its collier......nice try tho. If someone who's name is electric bluewith electricity abilities wasn't Faster than Skywalk( that Sanji hasn't even mastered) that would be odd. Niji's speed isn't gonna help him beat Sanji in a fight, Sanji is still fast himself and Sanji has observation haki. Blitzing fodder will never be impressive Carrot did that same thing on a grander scale.
It is. He won't be able to land on his head when pound was in the way. How many spinning attacks does Sanji have?
You are already agreeing that he is faster so then that renders your previous point about them not having superior feats irrelevant.
Lol at Sanji hasn't mastered sky walk
When Niji is faster and has better power and durability than Sanji then yes he defeats Sanji in fight
Stop grouping Zoro with Sanji as if they are comparable!
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Since when hasn’t Sanji mastered skywalk? Holy shit you Sanji fans get more desperate by the day . Sanjis trash the sooner you get over it you can stop embarrassing yourself on these Internet forums sooner
It is better portrayal when no one in Wano has been able to accomplish such a feat
He doesn't have to fight G2/G3 Luffy for such a conclusion to be made. Ulti was in a2 v 1 against G2/G3 Luffy but nice try ignoring that.
Sanji sneaked Page 1 with his final attack and his first attack
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It is. He won't be able to land on his head when pound was in the way. How many spinning attacks does Sanji have?
You are already agreeing that he is faster so then that renders your previous point about them not having superior feats irrelevant.
Lol at Sanji hasn't mastered sky walk
When Niji is faster and has better power and durability than Sanji then yes he defeats Sanji in fight
None of the swordsman in Wano are stronger than Jimbei so what's your point?
So even tho Luffy says "her powers too strong" your assuming he went Gear 4 for Page One? when its just Ulti and Luffy in that panel........Niji doesn't have more power, and that durability thing doesn't matter as shown in the Yonji clash....they all have the same steel skin. So there nothing stopping Niji from looking like this in a fight against Sanji.
How many Spinning Attacks does Sanji have................ Spinning is literally a central part of this dudes fighting style.
And YES Sanji has not mastered skywalk....... did you see the shit Lucci and the others were doing with Geppo? Sanji just has the basics of the ability.
None of the swordsman in Wano are stronger than Jimbei so what's your point?
So even tho Luffy says "her powers too strong" your assuming he went Gear 4 for Page One? when its just Ulti and Luffy in that panel........Niji doesn't have more power, and that durability thing doesn't matter as shown in the Yonji clash....they all have the same steel skin. So there nothing stopping Niji from looking like this in a fight against Sanji.
How many Spinning Attacks does Sanji have................ Spinning is literally a central part of this dudes fighting style.
And YES Sanji has not mastered skywalk....... did you see the shit Lucci and the others were doing with Geppo? Sanji just has the basics of the ability.
Ashura doji fought oden for a whole night . Jinbei could not do that . He’s not a top tier brawler like garp to be able to fight against a top tier swordman. Jinbei is not stronger then the stronger scabbards by default . Also yes Sanji did master skywalk . Cut the bullshit you’re always trying to make Sanji look better then what oda portrays that’s why you always have to defend him with nonsense
Zoro is not comparable to anyone you group with Sanji you bozo. Oda groupe Sanji and Jinbei together in Fishman island . Zoro always gets grouped with luffy his fellow Worstgen member and future top tier . It seems you don’t learn your lessson when it comes to zoro . Zoro is not in the same league as Sanji and Jinbei get over it and go back to posting nonsense such as “ zoro will fight yc3 kyoshiro “ or “ zoro has never said he wants to fight kaido” isn’t it obvious that’s keeping up with this children’s story is out of your capacity?
Ashura doji fought oden for a whole night . Jinbei could not do that . He’s not a top tier brawler like garp to be able to fight against a top tier swordman. Jinbei is not stronger then the stronger scabbards by default . Also yes Sanji did master skywalk . Cut the bullshit you’re always trying to make Sanji look better then what oda portrays that’s why you always have to defend him with nonsense
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Zoro is not comparable to anyone you group with Sanji you bozo. Oda grouper Sanji and Jinbei together in Fishman island . Zoro always gets grouped with luffy his fellow Worstgen member and future top tier . It seems you don’t learn your lessson when it comes to zoro . Zoro is not in the same league as Sanji and Jinbei get over it and go back to posting nonsense such as “ zoro will fight yc3 kyoshiro “ or “ zoro has never said he wants to fight kaido” isn’t it obvious that’s keeping up with this children’s story is out of your capacity?
Jimbei and his subordinates could not fight oden for the whole night and lose?? lmao im pretty sure jimbei could do that, I don't see why not. Jimbei definitely has the Haki to fight top tier swordsman. We have the panels for that.......
And bro Sanji has not mastered Skywalk. Read Enies Lobby again. Sanjis not moving in the air like Lucci was bro. Im not trying to make Sanji look better do you ever see me saying Sanji is stronger than Zoro or some bullshit like that? im being realistic and telling you the truth about Sanjis abilities....... We've never seen sanji move like this. If you think Sanji has please drop the panels.
None of the swordsman in Wano are stronger than Jimbei so what's your point?
So even tho Luffy says "her powers too strong" your assuming he went Gear 4 for Page One? when its just Ulti and Luffy in that panel........Niji doesn't have more power, and that durability thing doesn't matter as shown in the Yonji clash....they all have the same steel skin. So there nothing stopping Niji from looking like this in a fight against Sanji.
How many Spinning Attacks does Sanji have................ Spinning is literally a central part of this dudes fighting style.
And YES Sanji has not mastered skywalk....... did you see the shit Lucci and the others were doing with Geppo? Sanji just has the basics of the ability.
And how did you reach that conclusion? Characters hurting a top tier are now weaker than Jinbei. Aren't you the same person claiming a few posts prior about Jinbei's feats against top tiers? What happened to that?
Was Luffy in a 2 v 1 or not. Just hypocrisy from this point. You clearly see Luffy is in a 2 v 1 but you ignore all that to claim something else just to upplay Sanji. Why not do same for other characters.
Their skin is bullet proof , Sanji's isn't = They have more durability. Also they have RS on top of that which Sanji didn't have in WCI. This isn't even argument.
Yes Niji hasn't shown HM attack power, however he has lethality, speed, durability all above Sanji so how exactly is Sanji going to win in a fight against him. Even in base Niji cracked Sanji's spine.
Such intellectual dishonesty. Spinning attack which look like concasse. How many of those does Sanji have?
Lol at Sanji not mastering skywalk. Not only is that not stated but it is also not implied. Posting Lucci doesn't show anything different of skywalk than what we already know...he is still kicking the sky to move.
You could say he is slower but that has nothing to do with mastery , it is just being slow. No wonder Yuen outpaced him in the sky
In the end my point still stands, Putting Sanji over Jinbei only shows poor powerscaling
And how did you reach that conclusion? Characters hurting a top tier are now weaker than Jinbei. Aren't you the same person claiming a few posts prior about Jinbei's feats against top tiers? What happened to that?
Was Luffy in a 2 v 1 or not. Just hypocrisy from this point. You clearly see Luffy is in a 2 v 1 but you ignore all that to claim something else just to upplay Sanji. Why not do same for other characters.
Their skin is bullet proof , Sanji's isn't = They have more durability. Also they have RS on top of that which Sanji didn't have in WCI. This isn't even argument.
Yes Niji hasn't shown HM attack power, however he has lethality, speed, durability all above Sanji so how exactly is Sanji going to win in a fight against him. Even in base Niji cracked Sanji's spine.
Such intellectual dishonesty. Spinning attack which look like concasse. How many of those does Sanji have?
Lol at Sanji not mastering skywalk. Not only is that not stated but it is also not implied. Posting Lucci doesn't show anything different of skywalk than what we already know...he is still kicking the sky to move.
You could say he is slower but that has nothing to do with mastery , it is just being slow. No wonder Yuen outpaced him in the sky
In the end my point still stands, Putting Sanji over Jinbei only shows poor powerscaling
Bro I never said Sanji was above Jimbei........ Now you're trippin.
It was 2v1 fine...... but at the end of the day Yamato didn't defeat a Tobi roppo, Sanji didn't defeat a Tobi roppo.
Niji has durability above Sanji fine...... But Sanji has the power to get through that durability. Injuring Sanji is not a difficult thing to do and never has been. But the whole reason Niji was Able to do that was because he told Sanji not to fight back because they'll kill Zeff. Infact the way it was portrayed..... Base Sanji was going to whoop Niji's ass until Ichiji said "Wait Sanji Don't forget we have hostages of your's in East Blue."
Heres the viz Niji states" Don't Fight Back or Blood will run into the East Blue."
Tho tbh jinbe currently being in between them would make sense. Like I said before i just think he was stronger at fmi and will be weaker but still comparable post wano.
Tho i still personally think jinbe is stronger than both at this very moment but thats me
Ashura doji fought oden for a whole night . Jinbei could not do that . He’s not a top tier brawler like garp to be able to fight against a top tier swordman. Jinbei is not stronger then the stronger scabbards by default . Also yes Sanji did master skywalk . Cut the bullshit you’re always trying to make Sanji look better then what oda portrays that’s why you always have to defend him with nonsense
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Zoro is not comparable to anyone you group with Sanji you bozo. Oda groupe Sanji and Jinbei together in Fishman island . Zoro always gets grouped with luffy his fellow Worstgen member and future top tier . It seems you don’t learn your lessson when it comes to zoro . Zoro is not in the same league as Sanji and Jinbei get over it and go back to posting nonsense such as “ zoro will fight yc3 kyoshiro “ or “ zoro has never said he wants to fight kaido” isn’t it obvious that’s keeping up with this children’s story is out of your capacity?
And how did you reach that conclusion? Characters hurting a top tier are now weaker than Jinbei. Aren't you the same person claiming a few posts prior about Jinbei's feats against top tiers? What happened to that?
Was Luffy in a 2 v 1 or not. Just hypocrisy from this point. You clearly see Luffy is in a 2 v 1 but you ignore all that to claim something else just to upplay Sanji. Why not do same for other characters.
Their skin is bullet proof , Sanji's isn't = They have more durability. Also they have RS on top of that which Sanji didn't have in WCI. This isn't even argument.
Yes Niji hasn't shown HM attack power, however he has lethality, speed, durability all above Sanji so how exactly is Sanji going to win in a fight against him. Even in base Niji cracked Sanji's spine.
Such intellectual dishonesty. Spinning attack which look like concasse. How many of those does Sanji have?
Lol at Sanji not mastering skywalk. Not only is that not stated but it is also not implied. Posting Lucci doesn't show anything different of skywalk than what we already know...he is still kicking the sky to move.
You could say he is slower but that has nothing to do with mastery , it is just being slow. No wonder Yuen outpaced him in the sky
In the end my point still stands, Putting Sanji over Jinbei only shows poor powerscaling
I only brought up Jimbei's feats against top tiers cause you brought up Zoro's feats against top tiers bro....... the concasse on oven thing is really stupid tbh..... ***** can just say what attack someone is using just because it looks like the attack? that's bullshit, if concasse isn't on the page that's not concasse.Simple as that and its a base kick. This is like saying a character said something without having the dialogue of them saying it.
Im done with that skywalk argument. Lucci was Clearly using Geppo techniques like kamisori but whatever, point is Sanji is clearly at his best when he's on the ground not in the air. He's faster on the ground and his fighting style is much more effective on the ground.
Superior with sneak attack?
Its just a plot for another Kalifa or viola/pudding thing, survived from YC1 Full zoan attack to wrecked by gifters isnt a big deal anyway.
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