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Geo

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pg13 said:
Bro I never said Sanji was above Jimbei........ Now you're trippin.
It was 2v1 fine...... but at the end of the day Yamato didn't defeat a Tobi roppo, Sanji didn't defeat a Tobi roppo.

Niji has durability above Sanji fine...... But Sanji has the power to get through that durability. Injuring Sanji is not a difficult thing to do and never has been. But the whole reason Niji was Able to do that was because he told Sanji not to fight back because they'll kill Zeff. Infact the way it was portrayed..... Base Sanji was going to whoop Niji's ass until Ichiji said "Wait Sanji Don't forget we have hostages of your's in East Blue."
Heres the viz Niji states" Don't Fight Back or Blood will run into the East Blue."

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I never said you did so seems you the one trippin
Well since you can't counter it dumbing it down is the next option. Yamato showed superior feats to Sanji... that was the main point. She did defeat Ulti. Sanji didn't defeat Page 1

As if that was the only point I made. My point was, not only was Niji faster than Sanji even in base ...the panel you showed shows that Sanji couldn't react to stealth..he was caught before Niji blackmailed him. Niji also has the superior durability + RS and has the superior lethality. Sanji at WCI was decisively weaker.
 
Ice devil slayer

Ice devil slayer

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BangMi said:
Superior with sneak attack? :milaugh:
Its just a plot for another Kalifa or viola/pudding thing, survived from YC1 Full zoan attack to wrecked by gifters isnt a big deal anyway.
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We knew where that plot goes anyway
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Yeah superior with only using using one sword and a no named attack..unless you think that 1 sword Zoro is him at full power

Btw he still had Drake shook :milaugh::milaugh:
 
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Geo

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#223
#223
pg13 said:
I only brought up Jimbei's feats against top tiers cause you brought up Zoro's feats against top tiers bro....... the concasse on oven thing is really stupid tbh..... ***** can just say what attack someone is using just because it looks like the attack? that's bullshit, if concasse isn't on the page that's not concasse.Simple as that and its a base kick. This is like saying a character said something without having the dialogue of them saying it.

Im done with that skywalk argument. Lucci was Clearly using Geppo techniques like kamisori but whatever, point is Sanji is clearly at his best when he's on the ground not in the air. He's faster on the ground and his fighting style is much more effective on the ground.
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Which I was right about. Jinbei's feats against top tiers have not been better than Zoro's feats against top tiers

Look at the context...how do you expect Sanji to name his attack in that situation? We even have a similar one in the recent chapter where Zoro uses shishisonson without naming...doesn't mean the attack wasn't.

That is Lucci's techniques...you expect Sanji to be using same techniques and names as someone else just because the base tech is the same?
 
pg13

pg13

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#227
#227
Geo said:
I never said you did so seems you the one trippin
Well since you can't counter it dumbing it down is the next option. Yamato showed superior feats to Sanji... that was the main point. She did defeat Ulti. Sanji didn't defeat Page 1

As if that was the only point I made. My point was, not only was Niji faster than Sanji even in base ...the panel you showed shows that Sanji couldn't react to stealth..he was caught before Niji blackmailed him. Niji also has the superior durability + RS and has the superior lethality. Sanji at WCI was decisively weaker.
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Lemme ask you something..... What level do you put Ichiji and Niji on? In a Yonko Crew what group of individuals would you put them with? Because when Sanji fought Daifuku, they were relative, Daifuku wasn't decisively stronger than Sanji and Sanji wasn't decisively stronger than Daifuku..... they were more or less on par. when they clashed. So if Niji is decisively stronger than Sanji like you say..... what level is he on? commander level?

Yamato Did not defeat Ulti, Ulti got up the next chapter.....Sanji did this
and we didn't page one for another 40 plus chapters. We don't know what happened.....
 
Chaves

Chaves

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pg13 said:
Lemme ask you something..... What level do you put Ichiji and Niji on? In a Yonko Crew what group of individuals would you put them with? Because when Sanji fought Daifuku, they were relative, Daifuku wasn't decisively stronger than Sanji and Sanji wasn't decisively stronger than Daifuku..... they were more or less on par. when they clashed. So if Niji is decisively stronger than Sanji like you say..... what level is he on? commander level?

Yamato Did not defeat Ulti, Ulti got up the next chapter.....Sanji did this
and we didn't page one for another 40 plus chapters. We don't know what happened.....
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Probably a named attack DJ would probably have done the same thing Yamato did for a tobi roppo, what Sanji really takes advantage of for Yamato is his speed in combination with invisibility, which makes him a more dangerous fighter than Yamato who is a one-dimensional fighter

And don't confuse things, base no-DJ Sanji was just like Daifuku, not Sanji with his power
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and zoro still cut through apoos tonfa, so either he overpowered apoos attack on drake, or apoo tried blocking zoro.
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Zoro cut his tonfa while he fought Drake
 
pg13

pg13

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Geo said:
Which I was right about. Jinbei's feats against top tiers have not been better than Zoro's feats against top tiers

Look at the context...how do you expect Sanji to name his attack in that situation? We even have a similar one in the recent chapter where Zoro uses shishisonson without naming...doesn't mean the attack wasn't.

That is Lucci's techniques...you expect Sanji to be using same techniques and names as someone else just because the base tech is the same?
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Zoro's top tier feats: Getting out of Fujitora's Gravity....and Clashing with Fujitora twice. Clashing with Fujitora in Dressrosa is not a feat multiple individuals did it... So the only feat here is Zoro getting out of the Gravity. That is Zoro's top tier feat..............

Now lets compare that to what Jimbei has done:

Jimbei being conscious from Akainu's attack. When we saw it has the power to Kill an individual instantly.

Jimbei Blocking A Yonko's Blade with his His arms coated Armament Haki not even using a weapon to block.

Saving Luffy's Ass from 1st Commander.



Defeating a Warlord: Moria is stronger than anybody Zoro has defeated in One Piece.


As you can see what they've done is not comparable. No matter how strong you want to make Fujitora.
 
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Jo_Ndule

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pg13 said:
Zoro's top tier feats: Getting out of Fujitora's Gravity....and Clashing with Fujitora twice. Clashing with Fujitora in Dressrosa is not a feat multiple individuals did it... So the only feat here is Zoro getting out of the Gravity. That is Zoro's top tier feat..............

Now lets compare that to what Jimbei has done:

Jimbei being conscious from Akainu's attack. When we saw it has the power to Kill an individual instantly.

Jimbei Blocking A Yonko's Blade with his His arms coated Armament Haki not even using a weapon to block.

Saving Luffy's Ass from 1st Commander.



Defeating a Warlord: Moria is stronger than anybody Zoro has defeated in One Piece.


As you can see what they've done is not comparable. No matter how strong you want to make Fujitora.
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Jinbei>zoro in feats, portrayal and hype so far

Kidd and Luffy admire Jinbei badly while they don't even hype or praise Zoro
 
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