General & Others The Whitebeard pirates never knew Wano was Kaido’s territory for 20 years
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Not even a viable excuse. Factories were already built by the time Oden came back:
By the time Ace got there, Wano was in worse shape than when Oden returned.
Cool, but absolutely nothing suggests that.
I honestly don’t see how this can be contested after 998, its an inconsistency plain and simple.
Edit: Nvm, @Owl Ki already pointed it out.
Cool, but absolutely nothing suggests that.
I honestly don’t see how this can be contested after 998, its an inconsistency plain and simple.
Edit: Nvm, @Owl Ki already pointed it out.
So, that makes it necessary for Ace to continuously attack him, despite losing to him left and right?
@Owl Ki beat you to it. I concede.
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Not even a viable excuse. Factories were already built by the time Oden came back:
By the time Ace got there, Wano was in worse shape than when Oden returned.
Cool, but absolutely nothing suggests that.
I honestly don’t see how this can be contested after 998, its an inconsistency plain and simple.
Cool, but absolutely nothing suggests that.
I honestly don’t see how this can be contested after 998, its an inconsistency plain and simple.
LMFAOOO, we gotta hold this **** @Celestial D. Dragon at gun point to admit Oda goofed
Pretty much, yes. I don't see what you're exactly trying to convey with this "necessary" argument, anyways, what would make his attacks "necessary" from your point of view and what do you understand by "necessary"? Because I can totally see the reasoning behind Ace's behavior even if it's just for the sake of growing or achieving a small goal, which he finally did once he burned him.
Well...Ace wanted to kill Kaido , it's highly unlikely that WB didn't knew about Kaido's whereabouts. We will get proper explanation about it in upcoming (possible) Ace's flashback. Specially to know he went there on his own or on WB's command etc.
Otherwise this gonna be the first big plot loop in One Piece by Oda
Otherwise this gonna be the first big plot loop in One Piece by Oda
I honestly don't give a shit about the man's "honor", but I'm not like you guys who refuse to look at things from alternative angles to see if the pieces can somehow fit. 
We have no idea if he will ever explain it, so until he does it’s a plot hole/massive inconsistency
At what point did he jus fuck up
And that's what I said, until proven otherwise, it is to be considered a plot hole/inconsistency. But there is nothing wrong with people trying to make sense of it in the meantime. It has nothing to do with defending Oda, but rather wanting a story we've been following for 10-15+ years to maintain a certain level of consistency, and not leave us scratching our heads like what the fuck?
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Wano will surpass WCI?
Wano is canon?
this arc is a filler with Canon stuffToo long for nothing so far,..
50+ chapters if set ups...
UDON summer camp...
Calamities didnt do much since 25 years ago as fighters,... it's only kaido who got to beat people, calsmities feeling less of a threat....
Important battles are written poorly: kaido vs Oden, Jack vs dukes.
Too much dragging
Wanks : Oden and Ace
Characters became retarded: the 5 year plot with Oden and Orochi ... WBP never cared or even visited Wano to check on Oden.... BMP can't use their powers to just move the ship easily to Onigashima
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