Speculations Do you think Kaido will die at the end of this arc?

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
You talk about patience but most of you are those who bark the loudest :kayneshrug:
Not our fault Oda introduced just that many elements that picture Zoro to kill Kaido and in general there's even ground for Kaido to be killed too since a while.

All commenced with Brook introducing Wano to Zoro, the swordsman parallel which looked insignificant at the time but then a parallel with Oden came into play and Zoro was entrusted his sword and there was a long flashback showing Oden's (failed) deeds which can suggest a continuation of the job may come soon.

Then again no other character in the verse got such a big portrayal when it comes to fighting Kaido, not even Luffy himself. Or Kidd..

It is not sure, but we have elements.
 
Kaido’s not a counterpart to Ace though, he’s one to Whitebeard. Marineford and Wano are counterparts to each other because both represent a total change of the status quo both in-series and out- the World’s Strongest, an Emperor, former Rocks Pirate, being defeated by a D. Marineford brought about the time skip, Wano will bring around Luffy being a Great Pirate and the series being at the beginning of the end.

I think the most that can be compared between Ace and Kaido is that their deaths might be similarity bittersweet, where Luffy achieving his goal doesn’t make him the outright winner. Luffy did save Ace to a great extent, physically and spiritually. By freeing him from the execution platform he allowed Ace to die of his own volition. There’s a great deal of difference between an execution and a sacrifice for another. It allowed Ace to make a choice, and die as a free man- for the brother he chose, not the father he never knew and was being executed for- and we know how important freedom is in One Piece. And he gave Ace to the answer of the question he was looking for all his life- it was a good thing that he had been born.

The death of Kaido might similarly not be a total success. It won’t bring back Oden, Toki and Yasu, for one thing. If Kaido does kill someone (like Kin’emon), Luffy will have lost while winning, much like he did at Marineford. Oda did say that there would be a cost to victory here, after all.
If Kaido's death comes however, it should be more likened to Xebecs. One so bland that he ends up being forgotten through time. That's not achieved if he becomes known as the Dragon slain over Wano, which freed the Country and opened the borders. Characters like Roger and Whitebeard were rewarded for their greatness by given a death that allows them to live on through the legacy they left behind. Kaido does not deserve this.

To me, the biggest poetic justice Oda can serve to Kaido, is if he brings Orochi back, and he is given all the infamy attributed to the state of Wano, the end of this War and serving as the catalyst of freeing the Country and opening the borders. From there Kaido lives on knowing that everything he worked to achieve for the last 20 years, from his status as Emperor of the Sea, to his title of Strongest in the World, is stripped from him, and he will eventually die knowing he will be forgotten.

Something along those lines seems to be the direction Oda is heading with Kaido. He's not going to give him the glorious death that he so deeply desires. Before his death comes, he will need to have lost it all. Killing Kaido before that is counter productive in my opinion, considering how much emphasis Oda has placed on exactly what kind of death Kaido wants.
 
Then why does he have less panel time than Brook:catblush:
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If Zoro is supposed to inherit Odens will he must finish what Oden started just Like how Chopper must finish what hiruluk started
Apoo was just fine and kicking latest chapter and Zoro used Shishi Sonson, I will make a thread dispelling the myth of named attacks being stronger than non-named attacks once and for all.

Brook has more panel time than Kaido, doesn’t mean Kaido is not important and the same goes for Kid.

Also Zoro is not a killer, he has never killed anyone, he’s not about that life, it would be out of character if he actually killed someone just like in Luffy’s case.

Not saying he would have a chance in hell of killing Kaido even if he wanted to.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Apoo was just fine and kicking latest chapter, Brook has more panel time than Kaido, doesn’t mean Kaido is not important and the same goes for Kid.

Also Zoro is not a killer, he has never killed anyone, he’s not about that life, it would be out of character if he actually killed someone just like in Luffy’s case.

Not saying he would have a chance in hell of killing Kaido even if he wanted to.
He opened the arc killing and has killed in the past.
 
No, I believe Kaido will survive. I think he will wake up after his defeat on a retreating ship "Probably Jack took it"
And Kaido will be looking at the sky saying "shit, I survived again"

But I believe Kaido will die in final war against WG... I truly believe Yamato and Momo will have BIG ROLE against WG war simply because of what was shown so far in this arc.... and I believe if there is anyone who knows how to KILL a Dragon Race (because I believe Kaido is a true dragon) then it's the Gorosei/Imu-sama and WG higher ups....

Kaido's grandiose death will be a sacrifice for Yamato or Momo or both (a father sacrifice is always grandiose even if you hate Kaido doing sacrifice idea, a good writer will make it great).... specially if Kaido is a true dragon. Then ALL THREE (Kaido/Yamato/Momo) are basically dragons.... Even though Momo is through DF

I think Dragon's race is extinguished, and only Kaido was left and now he's got Yamato too... but yeah... I think Kaido's arc and story will end when he goes back and face his past.... in the same way some people just want to shove down the Big Mom started in Elbaf down our throat. I will say Kaido's end should be where he started... "Probably a dragon creature slave under the amusement and entertainment of Celestial Dragons"

So basically I believe Kaido and Big Mom will be defeated this arc, BUT they both will not end as character... Big Mom's story arc can end in ELbaf... while Kaido's end in final war in Marijoa
 
What do you mean how so. He was slashed open and zoro got a wanted poster for killing him.
No, you’re mixing things up, the magistrate was killing people and then he framed Zoro which is why he got the wanted poster and when he was about to commit seppuku he stopped and slashed him instead but he never killed him, he only wounded his chest/shoulder area.
 
The panel time thing is bullshit, look at Marineford: people like Moria, Hancock, Crocodile had much more panel time compared to Teach but what was the outcome?
Teach killed Whitebeard, ate his fruit and became Yonko
Same example can be made with even less important characters like Curiel, this panel thing means something only for distracted readers
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The panel time thing is bullshit, look at Marineford: people like Moria, Hancock, Crocodile had much more panel time compared to Teach but what was the outcome?
Teach killed Whitebeard, ate his fruit and became Yonko
Same example can be made with even less important characters like Curiel, this panel thing means shit only for distracted readers
:kayneshrug:
Yeah, people shouldn't think too much about screentime
 
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