Chapter Discussion Is Killer underrated?

ShinmenTakezo

ShinmenTakezo

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#141
#141
Jew D. Boy said:
To be fair, I think Killer’s largely been underrated because he hasn’t shown much of what he can do until he showed up as Kamazo. There’s a reason why he’s the only other non-captain Supernova, and it’s been pretty cool to see him get a chance to shine this arc...hope his inclusion in the face off with Kaido and Big Mom means we’ll get to watch him whoop some MAJOR ass in the near future :finally:
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He has been underrated because Kamazou is not Killer really.
 
kom5

kom5

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#144
#144
DarkWitch said:
You could have simply made this topic is Killer underrated, but bringing Sanji into this is going to turn this thread into a toxic argument and it seems like you just wanted to make this thread to indirectly bash Sanji.

The discussion here is soon going to turn into another Zoro vs Sanji argument lol.
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its not especially not since Killer vs Zoro is be used to downgrade Zoro

Zoro did defeat an big opponent this Killeris here downgraded like he was some fodder
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

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#154
RecoomeBoom said:
Killer's intellect is underrated. He seems to be the smartest character on the island.
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For now I think Robin, Nami, Law and Marco are smarter than him on the good side. Orochi is also smarter for now :sadgrin:.

About the topic : obviously Killer is underestimated. People thought Kamazou = Killer, this was non sense. Killer is obviously better than Kamazou and he will prove it soon.
Killer is likely better than any F6 bar Drake. An all out fight between Drake and Killer can be interesting.

I rate Killer above Hawkins. And around Apoo/Drake, a shade below maybe.

And about Sanji vs Killer.
End of Wano Sanji will be stronger than Killer. Killer will also likely has a PU but I don't think he will be at YC1 level.
It was proven by Kinemon and co that you can hurt Kaido without being an upper high tier.

Sanji will likely fight either Queen or King, and if he does that alone this is a huge feat.

Being a SN is good portrayal but SN doesn't mean being stronger than Sanji.
 
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RayanOO

RayanOO

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#158
Rivaille said:
How exactly Killer >> Kamazo?
Is not Killer still under the smile effect?
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First Killer has his own and usual weapons now, the ones that are the best for him and his fighting style. This is a good difference already.

Then Kamazou was messed up mentally, his face wide open for everyone to see his laugh, not knowing his friends and captain fate and forced to work for Orochi : messed up mental state.
Now Killer is with his crew and captain again, they don't care at all about Killer laugh and still accept and love him so this likely ease Killer's mind a lot, and Killer put his helmet again. And now Killer fights for his captain and for his own believes. This is completely different from Kamazou.

If Killer manages to accept and deal with his laugh and mental issue, I can bet all of this will make him stronger.
 
rerere

rerere

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#159
Finalbeta said:
I would not say there's a huge gap for now. Kamazo was still Killer and he wasn't injured or tired, he was psychologically messed up but we have yet no evidencial info on the degree of shift that inducted power levels wise.
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You joking right?
He had not his regular weapons
Was beaten to death some time before (Kidd in Udon was still injured, and Killer himself was covered in bendages)
Messed up psichologically like you said
Was conducting Zoro's ronin life (including poisoned food-water) since more time than him

Rivaille said:
How exactly Killer >> Kamazo?
Is not Killer still under the smile effect?
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Sure he is, but now is a totally different scenario
As I said to Beta, he was full of shit. Now he has recovered from injuries, has his personal weapons and has reunited with Kidd and his crew (which means that psychologically is better)
 
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