General & Others Garp's statement about Yonkou being most powerful pirates

[uyuu]

Can anyone translate the raw chapter where Garp first mentioned about Yonkou? Did he say Yonkou are [the four most powerful pirates] who rule the latter half of the grandline? Or did he said [the four great/greatest pirates] ruling over the last half of the grandline?

- How is that statement relate to the individual combat power of each Yonkou?

- Two of them are WSC and WSM (two really frighteningly powerful top titles regarding powerlevel), one is Natural Born Destroyer (another good title even though sadly she become a Meme), and the last two haven't make their move and doesn't have powerlevel-related title/epithet

- Does these things support the notion of Yonkou being that powerful individually? Or they are great because of their army and territory? Or somewhere in the middle? Is Yonkou level really a level depicted by [four most powerful pirates] or is there actually no such thing?

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

This has been translated and elaborated upon since OJ.

Yes, Yonko are some of the strongest characters in the series. Are they the 4 strongest? No. Individuals such as Mihawk, Sakazuki, Dragon, etc, are stronger than most if not all of them.


In order to be a Yonko one needs a strong crew and territories.
MF Gura yami Teach who had declared himself the strongest, who did the unprecedented by eating two devil fruits and was pulling off feats on WB's level, thus he was a top tier.

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Yet he only became a Yonko after beating Marco and conquering territories left behind by WB. So strength alone isn't enough. You need lands. You need a strong crew. You need people to protect those lands.

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Teach had to gather sufficient territories in order to be recognized as an Emperor, which the name itself implies.

Individual strength of course helps, but without a crew and territories, even if one was the strongest of all time in OP one wouldn't be an Emperor.​

 

[Rekien]

Its relation to how much power they have, each of them have huge territories in the new world, the sea where only the best of the best pirates are at, they have huge armies and a lot of competent fighters working for them...Yeah, they are undoubtly the most powerfull pirates in the world since their armies could pretty much devastate any country if they wanted to, hell, a single one of them gave the best fighters in the government a fuck ton of trouble, and since there is some manner of balance in the new world, their armies strneght are not very diferent from one another.

How does that translate to 1v1 though....They have to be strong enough to earn the respect or fear of all the captains and commanders under them, soo of course they have to be strong as hell, specialy ones like Kaido who's troops are constantly looking for opportunities to climb up the ranks.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Easiest way to determine how you get there is to examine how characters who reached that level during the run of the story, meaning BB and Luffy. BB beat Marco and WB remnants and gained territory -> was considered Yonkou.

Luffy beat two commanders, infiltrated BM´s territory and got out again, also gathered powerful pirates under him, Bege and so on were also put under him by Morgan -> he as also considered one.

 

[Slash Slash BigSlash]

I don't think the title of Yonko itself has much to do with strength. Sure you need to be strong to some extent to gain the title, like you need other attributes like leadership, tactics and other such things. But its not like a pure strenght title like WSM, WSS which has strongest in their title.

 

[Shiroyru]

The Yonko are the 4 strongest pirates and coincidentally the 4 strongest people alive if we exclude Im and the Gorosei, who are wild cards

 

[vikas]

They are refered as Great Pirates(Dai Kaizoku), but its not to wrong to say that they are the 4 strongest priates(I mean who else can we name?), you cannot be a great pirate by not being the strongest too, to lead and have a strong crew and influence.
In the end strength is what matters...and the same is being done for SHs too. They are getting stronger.

 

[T.D.A]

Can anyone translate the raw chapter where Garp first mentioned about Yonkou? Did he say Yonkou are [the four most powerful pirates] who rule the latter half of the grandline? Or did he said [the four great/greatest pirates] ruling over the last half of the grandline?

- How is that statement relate to the individual combat power of each Yonkou?

- Two of them are WSC and WSM (two really frighteningly powerful top titles regarding powerlevel), one is Natural Born Destroyer (another good title even though sadly she become a Meme), and the last two haven't make their move and doesn't have powerlevel-related title/epithet

- Does these things support the notion of Yonkou being that powerful individually? Or they are great because of their army and territory? Or somewhere in the middle? Is Yonkou level really a level depicted by [four most powerful pirates] or is there actually no such thing?

Among the countless masses of pirates in the world, he is one of the four greatest, along with the infamous Whitebeard, that dwell in the latter half of the Grand Line.

These pirates, who rule above all others almost as an emperor does, are called the Four Emperors, or Yonko!!!

It is only Marine Headquarters and the Seven Warlords that can withstand their might!!

These "Three Great Powers" form a precarious balance that keeps the world from destruction, lest it fall.

- Stephen Paul

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

My interpretation is different. I think it's overall strength a guy possess(not just his own strengths).

For eg Luffy was considered a candidate when he beat two YCs( individual strength), gathered a fleet( crew) and challenged BM.

If one's capable of challenging Yonkou, they also capable of going against WG. That's when they start to become threat to WG and are considered Great Pirates/Yonkou.

But Blackbeard still said it was too early for Luffy, my guess is Luffy still lacked strength. This will change post Wano, and SHs might finally be considered Yonkou crew when arcs done. Luffy will be capable of going Toe to toe with Top Tiers, will have Zoro, Sanji n Jinbei that can go toe to toe with High Tiers.

I dont think Territories are important in itself or necessary requirement, but Individual and crew strength matters a lot.
Islands and pirate crews will ask for protection if you are strong enough, so fleet and territory are extension itself if one is strong.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

@Erkan12 back me up on this lol.

Anyway, Garp stated that the Yonko are the four greatest pirates in the world. The greatest and strongest interpretation are the same concepts according to Stephen Paul.

 

[Slash Slash BigSlash]

@Erkan12 back me up on this lol.

Anyway, Garp stated that the Yonko are the four greatest pirates in the world. The greatest and strongest interpretation are the same concepts according to Stephen Paul.

Dude even from daiglouge you can it is referring to political power.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Dude even from daiglouge you can it is referring to political power.

Yes and...?

 

[Slash Slash BigSlash]

Yes and...?

And its not refering to strength

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

And its not refering to strength

He's literally said four greatest pirates, how is that not referring to strength?

 

[Erkan12]

@Erkan12 back me up on this lol.

Anyway, Garp stated that the Yonko are the four greatest pirates in the world. The greatest and strongest interpretation are the same concepts according to Stephen Paul.

Roger was a ''great pirate'' like Yonko Big mom before begging to Whitebeard and Oden to be the PK. So yeah, great pirate / 4 greatest pirates concept is the same thing with being one of the strongest pirates in the story.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Didn’t Garp say they’re on the same level as Whitebeard The Strongest Man in the World?

If they were discussing political power that doesn’t make sense as the Ace novel stated that Big Mom was the first to create a political empire. So they’d be on the same level as big mom in that sense.

So it should be fair to assume the phrase “on the level as Whitebeard” is referring to power that Rivals the strongest man in the world.

 

[Slash Slash BigSlash]

He's literally said four greatest pirates, how is that not referring to strength?

Either in your dictionary greatest means strongest or pirate does. But in English neither of those words means strength,

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Didn’t Garp say they’re on the same level as Whitebeard The Strongest Man in the World?

If they were discussing political power that doesn’t make sense as the Ace novel stated that Big Mom was the first to create a political empire. So they’d be on the same level as big mom in that sense.

So it should be fair to assume the phrase “on the level as Whitebeard” is referring to power that Rivals the strongest man in the world.

No it does not first doesn't mean the best. Whitebeard could be have been the best and probarbly was. And they referring too political power.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Didn’t Garp say they’re on the same level as Whitebeard The Strongest Man in the World?

No, Garp only say that Shanks is on the same level as Whitebeard.

Either in your dictionary greatest means strongest or pirate does. But in English neither of those words means strength,

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No it does not first doesn't mean the best. Whitebeard could be have been the best and probarbly was. And they referring too political power.

In English yes but this is Japanese, the kanji for strongest and greatest are the same.

 

[Oblivion]

No, Garp only say that Shanks is on the same level as Whitebeard.

In English yes but this is Japanese, the kanji for strongest and greatest are the same.

you know japenese?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

you know japenese?

A bit yeah, I took Japanese class in my freshman year in high school but I dropped it.