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    One Piece Chapter 1163: "Promise"

    Does this matter? He was still an unstoppable monster they were completely powerless against. Surely an acknowledgment of the WG's hidden strength from any of those guys would have been warranted considering they experienced it first hand. I could get behind that somewhat if the hunting...
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    One Piece Chapter 1163: "Promise"

    Unless Oda decides to go for a memory wipe kind of situation after the facts (which would bring its own problems), he's written himself into one hell of a corner here. I was already iffy about this genocide game being a regular thing the celestial dragons do considering how much suspension of...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    And yet Brannew found it relevant to bring them up in the very conference we are talking about. When a topic is relevant, like say, in a marines' conference about the history and evolving world of pirates, the Roger Pirates are on people's mind and will, in fact, be mentioned if deemed...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    People of all kind throughout the manga bring up the Roger pirate every single time they are relevant to a discussion. You are acting like it's a Taboo for anyone under 50 to mention them or something??? Heck village boy Usopp from the east blue is more familiar with Rayleigh than he is with...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    "Why should the marines be cautious of Wano", specifically the current events in Wano, BM and Kaido's alliance to pursue the One Piece. We agree on the context. And to that effect what did Sengoku do as a passing remark after the history lesson on Rocks? He brought up Oden. Sakazuki somehow...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    Oden had been inactive for decades (we the reader knew him to be dead). It's not like Sakazuki was trying to rally them against him by calling to their feelings or something... That whole conversations focused on historical events and how they relate to the present. The marines were just given a...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    If Sakazuki knew about Oden's voyage with Roger or if he deemed it relevant, he would have brought it up considering it was his last journey as a pirate. Instead, he identified him immediately and specifically as a WB crew member showing that either he himself didn't know that Oden joined Roger...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    Yes indeed those very officers. When Sakazuki thinks of Oden as a WB pirate first and that the bulk of the marines don't know about him, it's pretty clear that random people making statements about the Roger pirates are not factoring him in.
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    An admiral at that time treats his voyage with Roger as a curious anecdote and another officer in Sakazuki thinks of him as a short lived WB division commander. Point being, his assocciation with the Roger pirates is an obscure fact and to people like Oimo and Kashi, whose job was to sleep in...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    You may wanna read 957 to see how unknown Oden is to marine officers at large and how his association with the WB pirates stays paramount in the minds of those who do know about him.
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    When was it stated that Gaban told the giants about the Roger pirates? They are a legendary pirate crew and had been for decades before Gaban settled in Elbaf. They learned about them in the same way every other nation in the world learned about them.
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    You are using "likely" here. We are just left with his ambiguous silence as he listen to Sengoku elaborating . The fact that the first thing that came to his mind when it comes to Oden was his association with the WB specifically says a lot about the organization's perception of him as a pirate...
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    Reading comprehension at an all time low when it's difficult for people to understand that characters can only talk about things from their own limited knowledge and perspective.
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    It's not about how Oden sees himself, it's about the people making statements on the Roger Pirates and how they themselves see the crew.
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    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

    Nope. As the scene shows, he was know as a WB pirate first at that time, even to someone like Sakazuki let alone giants who the marines tricked into working for them. If you think Oimo and Kashi, who spent their time sleeping in Enies Lobby, are more reliable sources for the Marine's perception...
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