That very dynamic is the core narrative framework Oda's established for how the three compare strength-wise and is the only logic that really matters when it comes to strength discussions btw those 3 as it is what it always defaults to that irregardless of individual feats. Again I've heard...
Yup and I'm not really sure why that is supposed to be a wild take. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the "Monster Trio" for a reason so yes they are relative. Made this argument a million times already but narrative will always trump perceived feats. This is why Zoro is able to not look out of place...
Sanji is not killing nobody 😂
Oda’s not gonna start spamming deaths now just coz.
Sommers is too weak to be Sanji’s opponent. I just asked where y’all think Sanji’s finna be PL-wise end of Elbaf and the consensus was Old Legend Tier at worst. Sommers was literally sacrificed by Old Gaban lol &...
Already had this discussion already with kekaro in this thread yesterday.
There have been cases when the rankings have been ambigious, was the case with Robin when she boarded the ship as well as Jinbe when he joined at the start of Onigashima.
Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are all relative so if Loki...
Yup ^^
① Parallels, Inherited Will, Destiny
Rocks & Harald ⇨ (baton pass) ⇨ Luffy & Loki
- Like Rocks did Harald, Luffy will need Loki to challenge the status quo.
- Unlike Rocks who Loki perceived to be Nika, Luffy is Nika
- Unlike Harald who Rocks wanted to consume the legendary df and...
There's merit to this argument (i.e. the Blueno pattern bascically) but the only issue with this is that Aokiji has to be weaker than Zoro and Sanji's opponents for that to work which I think is a possibility if Teach is the final villian of OP but it doesn't really change the argument that...
How would you rationalize Aokiji's role in the Blackbeard Pirates though?
Surely it is noteworthy given the Blsckbeard Pirates are the counter parallel the SHs
Shiryu and Lafitte are clearly weaker than him atm yet they are most likely Zoro and Sanji's opponents.
So why can't Loki mirror...
Expect Loki to take up a role not too dissimilar to Sanji & Zoro’s so will most likely be one of the crew’s main fighters.
The squirrel is cheddar for Oda in the form of merchandise :risisweat:
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Personally legitimately think he joins tbh.
I know he's getting a lot of gas and folks think he is way too strong to join but I'll keep on reminding folks that Oda is a hype merchant and also an incredibly shameless writer so will reserve my judgement till the end of the arc.
Reckon...
So Low Top Tier~ish? :Think:
How far would do you reckon Post-Elbaf Sanji pushes an Admiral?
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I agree that Sanji was definitively stronger than Jinbe at the end of Wano but think start of Onigashima Sanji v Jimbe (which was when Jinbe joined) is ambigious to be fair but we can...
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Even if Loki joins post-elbaf, I don't think Sanji has to be definitively stronger than him.
As has been the case several times in the past, can be ambigious like it was when Robin first boarded the ship on Alabasta or at the start of Onigashima with Jinbe when the latter joined. Or...
High Top Tier at worst and Peak Top Tier at best.
For reference, reckon it's something like this:
God Tier
Imu
Demi-God Tier
HK Harald
Transcendent Top Tier
Xebec, Roger, Garp, Newgate, Shanks
High Top Tier~Peak Top Tier
Current Luffy
Current Loki
Don't wanna turn this into a Loki...
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