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Don’t think I’ve said anything that contradicts your take on Aokiji’s bounty though I completely disagree with the notion that cross guild bounties are irrelevant or have no bearing on actual WG bounties. That’d be counter-intuitive and I doubt Oda’s that wasteful. Bounties typically exist to...

There is absolutely zero chance that Zoro gets a bounty of 3bil post Elbaf. Loki has no bearing on Zoro’s bounty irregardless of whether he joins or not so best to just forget about Loki’s 2.6bil. On Teach I don’t discount him being final villain material but even if that were the case there is...

No chance imo. Baseline bounty for Admirals is 3bil. Only non captains that have a chance of hitting that bench mark are Zoro & Sanji imo.

Very impressive but I’d say take it with a grain of salt. Already commented on it in Lee’s thread on the issue so will just quote my comment there ^^

Base Prime Harald (Rock’s equal) > Prime Gaban much less Holy Knight Harald who’s gone up a tier. So Gaban slightly out of his prime (at 64) + Young Shanks not being able to beat HK Harald is a logical conclusion. Like has already been stated by someone on here already, the main issue with...

Teach doesn’t step on the WG’s toes nearly as much as Luffy does. He’s usually very calculated in his actions & doesn’t stir the pot without having an objective in mind. Luffy does this every arc 😂. I see what you’re saying though my statement wasn’t specific enough ^^

Let’s agree to disagree 🫂 We’d know by the end of the arc.

Don’t really understand why you think Yonko beating promising rookies is going to move their bounties. Makes no sense for Shanks to get a bounty increase for one tapping Kid & his crew. Teach will get a bounty increase but certainly not for taking out a pirate beneath him but rather whatever...

Teach (Post-Elbaf): 5,096,000,000 Shanks: 4,048,900,000 ——— Luffy (Post-Elbaf): 4,000,000,000 *Unlikely to be higher than Shanks *Teach is usually one step ahead of Luffy ——— Pattern 1: Zoro: 1,911,000,000 Sanji: 1,832,000,000 Pattern 2: Zoro: 1,900,000,000 Sanji: 1,900,000,000 Pattern 3...

Not really, The color spread is based off of strength and was confirmed with Law’s crew by Oda iirc. So irregardless of whether Aokiji joins, Oda’s is telling us that Shiryu is No.2. Logically it doesn’t make sense at the moment but it doesn’t really matter at this point tbh. Most important...

Now this a is a better argument & also a fair point ^^ but you gotta keep in mind we have Oda outchea saying that Shiryu is the number 2 of the Blackbeard pirates irregardless of Aokiji joining which is weird no? So Oda himself is aware the argument you are making & still persisting with said...

I don’t know, can’t think of a specific reason why that matchup will happen save both characters’ perceived strength but it is a possibility. That said however is Kuzan not a member of the BB Pirates or am I making that up? Coz I’m confused lol. You’re basically prioritizing fan headcanon over...

That’s an assumption by the fanbase though. There’s no guarantee that that will happen. I mean this is the same fanbase that expected Aokiji to ally with Teach and not actually join but here we are (tbf I was also part of that crowd) :risisweat: Fanfic from the fanbase aside, based on the...

Don’t think Loki’s above Luffy but that’s an argument for another thread 🫂. On Zoro & Sanji though, that isn’t necessarily true. Robin was arguably stronger than both when she boarded the ship & she also had a higher bounty than both to boot. It is very rare but it’s happened before. Regardless...

Not sure if this has been discussed yet but I think Kuzan is a strong argument in favor of Loki joining the SHs. A lot of folks have been going on about Loki being too strong to join but that didn’t stop Kuzan from joining the Blackbeard Pirates & he is unlikely to fight either Zoro or Sanji...

I can see where you’re coming from but not sure it’d be in the WG’s best interest to hide their threat level this time. Don’t really expect them to publicize the actual reason for their bounty raises either so can see them propagandizing it. For instance, saying Luffy has allied with the giants...

Tbh, even considering that it’s pretty low given his achievements and tbh although Luffy’s not outchea terrorizing regular folk, he’s the only Yonko that is actively challenging the WG.

Yh, I also feel the boosts this time are going to be like that. Only difference is that I don’t expect Zoro & Sanji to hit the 2bil mark just yet. Oda will most likely give Teach’s strongest subordinates the 2 bil bench mark to establish them as a threat beyond your average elite yonko...

I don’t think so for several reasons. ① Luffy’s narrative progression in relation to Shanks & Teach. Shanks’, Luffy’s benchmark is at 4,048,900,000. Luffy’s not quite at Shanks level yet hence his baby Yonko bounty of < 4bil and also the comparison to Shanks with Loki as the benchmark at the...

Luffy - 4,000,000,000 (*it should but I doubt it goes higher than Shanks) ——— Feel like Oda purposely gave Dorry & Broggy bounties coz he was going to make them antagonists this arc. Oda even gave them King’s of Elbaf narrative in an arc that is highlighting CoC so I feel like those two are...