Break Week It is the emperors who make the PK title difficult and impressive.

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Yes, as you heard, this is my second post showing the flaws of ONE PIECE.
If you haven't seen my other post: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...that-goal-the-famous-luck.17249/#post-1884062


We know that LOLER D. ROGER became PK, in an ERA that the strongest man in the world, was laughing at the antics of being PK, he didn't have that as a goal, and the other pirates didn't either, shiki had another goals I believe.



But what makes the PK title difficult to access? The lack of people who can decipher the ancient scriptures, and we know that there are people who can read (Robin, Oden, other people from the pais de wano ), people in the world who can awaken this ability (Pudding ) or materials that are left behind for example: ODEN Diary. These stones called Road Poneglyphs are scattered around the world at the time of Roger, so simplifying the title of being Pk from the Roger era:

- Get someone who can read.
- Find the Road Poneglyphs.
- The end, that's it.

What makes Roger's title special are the emperors (The 4 strongest pirates in the world), which today are the biggest obstacles for those who dream of being a Pk, being a PK in the Roger era was nothing compared to being a PK today, it's because that's what Luffy the Jesus Christ will overcome Roger. The emperors made the title take on much more difficult proportions for those who wish to become PK.

It was Roger:
- There was no competition.

- Roger outsmarted Whitebeard through ONE PIECE and became more influential than him, something that Whitebeard thought was a joke and was not interested.

- After finding the ONE PIECE, Roger's crew only became known and began to be chased by pirates from around the world thanks to the drastic actions of the navy, and the misinformation that Roger contained the treasure on his ship, the pirates left in search of stealing the treasure, it shows that no one at the time knew how to get the ONE PIEC, and Roger was the first, it shows that the guy was literally not in competition with anyone.

- In his execution, he made the public even more curious, pointing out that whoever found ONE PIECE, would gain fame, wealth, etc...

This caused pirates from all over the world to go to sea in search of ONE PIECE, it increased the competitiveness. This made your title, which was easily obtained, more difficult for others...

And for those who are competing and trying to be PK, the emperors are the biggest challenges, but in the new world you either join them or die, just like LAW explained... And that actually happened, Hawkins teamed up with kaido, Apoo, X-drake, Capone to Big Mom, kid and killer would be killed without the influence of Jesus Christ.

The emperors the biggest monsters of all, the ultimate barriers, the pirates who are impossible to be taken down by others except jesus christ luffy.

• So, Roger's title started in difficulty: 1x.
• Roger with his words + Navy and government made it : 10x harder for a person to get the title.
• And YONKOUS made it: 6000x harder to be PK.


O yeah, LOGER's title is only impressive because of the emperors, and to be honest it's not Roger's title that's impressive, it's the luffy title that will become PK in a tougher era.
PK luffy > Abyss > PK Roger in difficulty.

Luffy becoming PK with 2318738912031293 pirates competing is more impressive than Roger alone with no competition at all, and logical getting the necessary resources to become PK quite easily.

 

[Finalbeta]

Turning PK is actually a blazing matter. Mihawk could not by himself since he most likely cannot solo Kaido and Big Mom + their crews and this is likely why he claimed that becoming PK is an harder task than becoming WSS.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

You've cracked it. 20+ years of serialization, with the main premise of the story being that of the MC and thousands of other pirates duking it out over an empty title that will only really become relevant once Luffy achieves it. That's exactly what Oda has been going for.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

You've cracked it. 20+ years of serialization, with the main premise of the story being that of the MC and thousands of other pirates duking it out over an empty title that will only really become relevant once Luffy achieves it. That's exactly what Oda has been going for.

I didn't say half of what I wanted bro. The frustrations are great. But just speaking the basics, reaching ONE PIECE is currently about 200x harder than it was in the ROGER era.

You've cracked it. 20+ years of serialization, with the main premise of the story being that of the MC

Thousands of assholes right? Because the moment luffy decided to be a pirate and conquer ONE PIECE, these idiots became the biggest underdogs.

And I never call the PK title empty...
You really misinterpreted...

What that was:

Roger got the title easy in an uninformed era, Whitebeard himself laughed at the idea of Roger becoming the Pirate King, it was a joke.

Which shows that Roger didn't compete with anyone, and that's why he found it easy to obtain the title of Pirate King.

At that time the difficulty was not like today, Roger gave greater proportions to the title at the time of his death, he launched several pirates into the sea, these pirates who went in search of treasure, this increased competitiveness (SOMETHING ROGER never had) , and made life even more difficult for the other pirates who wanted to reach ONE PIECE, the point is that the key pieces, the ROADS ended up in the hands of the biggest and strongest pirates in the world, and literally, if you're not (Jesus Christ, the chosen one) like Luffy, no other pirate without being influenced or covered by Luffy's cape will topple an emperor, that is, the difficulty in overthrowing emperors added to the difficulty of finding the resources to reach the last island (Someone who knows how to read the scriptures etc... ), makes the title all that it is today, but people are deifying the wrong Roger, because he never had to go through even half the difficulty that other pirates face today. In a nutshell, fraud.

I mean, if ROGER himself were competing in the current era, he would die of illness, but he wouldn't win ONE PIECE before luffy. LOL

 

[Iam25]

1. Whitebeard could have become PK but turned it down
2. Buggy got sick and Shanks never went to Laughtale and then he never asked Rayleigh how to get there
3. Kaido didn't read Odens journal.

3 of the yonko were nerfed narratively so they couldn't become PK

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

1. Whitebeard could have become PK but turned it down
2. Buggy got sick and Shanks never went to Laughtale and then he never asked Rayleigh how to get there
3. Kaido didn't read Odens journal.

3 of the yonko were nerfed narratively so they couldn't become PK

Add: LOLA didn't get married, and BIG MOM couldn't have the elbaf army at their disposal to destroy all emperors and be PK.

 

[Vanlax]

Kaido, BM holds two of the red poneglyphs, which are needed to find laugh tale. So of course, Emperors makes the PK title impressive.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Kaido, BM holds two of the red poneglyphs, which are needed to find laugh tale. So of course, Emperors makes the PK title impressive.

- Kaido could easily read Oden's journal
- Shanks could ask Rayleigh
- Big mom could have Elbaf army if Lola married the giant, and defeat Yonko
- WB could accept Roger's offer

It got to the point that KAIDO's own daughter knew where to find ONE PIECE, but KAIDO didn't.
BIG MOM's daughter only needed to kiss one mouth.

When ODA said that YONKOUS are the closest to ONE PIECE, he wasn't kidding.
Kaido practically sleeps with ONE PIECE at home/location/path/diary story.

YONKOUS have always been one step away from ONE PIECE, but because of "bad luck", they never got it.

Any emperor could be PK. The ONE PIECE is reserved, that's why the emperors couldn't get it.

But at some point in history each emperor has always been within inches of the ONE PIECE and for plot purposes never managed to catch up, and they're all vying for it in an era 50x harder than the Roger era. But people still treat Roger like a god, the man who never had to fight a fight to the death for a ROAD and putting the man up there, the way he managed to get the ONE PIECE was pathetic and easy.

 

[Iam25]

Really if Oda has wanked anyone its Oden.

Without Oden Roger wouldn't have been the man he is.

Basically, Oden is the single most legendary figure in OP cut down before he reached his true prime.

Yonko level fighter, most important person to reaching Laughtale to the point Roger begged him to get to Laughtale. And if Odens journal has directions to Laughtale it just reinforced that point.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Yeah even current ussop can become the PK if he steal 4 boxes

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I didn't say half of what I wanted bro. The frustrations are great. But just speaking the basics, reaching ONE PIECE is currently about 200x harder than it was in the ROGER era.


Thousands of assholes right? Because the moment luffy decided to be a pirate and conquer ONE PIECE, these idiots became the biggest underdogs.

And I never call the PK title empty...
You really misinterpreted...

What that was:

Roger got the title easy in an uninformed era, Whitebeard himself laughed at the idea of Roger becoming the Pirate King, it was a joke.

Which shows that Roger didn't compete with anyone, and that's why he found it easy to obtain the title of Pirate King.

At that time the difficulty was not like today, Roger gave greater proportions to the title at the time of his death, he launched several pirates into the sea, these pirates who went in search of treasure, this increased competitiveness (SOMETHING ROGER never had) , and made life even more difficult for the other pirates who wanted to reach ONE PIECE, the point is that the key pieces, the ROADS ended up in the hands of the biggest and strongest pirates in the world, and literally, if you're not (Jesus Christ, the chosen one) like Luffy, no other pirate without being influenced or covered by Luffy's cape will topple an emperor, that is, the difficulty in overthrowing emperors added to the difficulty of finding the resources to reach the last island (Someone who knows how to read the scriptures etc... ), makes the title all that it is today, but people are deifying the wrong Roger, because he never had to go through even half the difficulty that other pirates face today. In a nutshell, fraud.

I mean, if ROGER himself were competing in the current era, he would die of illness, but he wouldn't win ONE PIECE before luffy. LOL

Except Chinjao stated that back during Roger's Era, the seas were a much more dangerous place. You're focusing on quantity over quality here. Roger might not have had as many people in competition with him, but those who were around back then, were considered the cream of the crop. Roger was a pirate for over 30 years, fighting against these people.

Roger set the precedent to becoming Pirate King, and it took him a 30 year long career to do it. Yeah it took him 3 years after learning about the One Piece, but he built up his reputation on his own. He didn't become Pirate King just because he found a treasure. He had to build up his reputation, and create the title on his merit alone. A reputation that was so great, that modern day people would only consider someone as the Pirate King, once they achieve what Roger did, and that was Conquering the Grand line.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Except Chinjao stated that back during Roger's Era, the seas were a much more dangerous place. You're focusing on quantity over quality here. Roger might not have had as many people in competition with him, but those who were around back then, were considered the cream of the crop. Roger was a pirate for over 30 years, fighting against these people.

Roger set the precedent to becoming Pirate King, and it took him a 30 year long career to do it. Yeah it took him 3 years after learning about the One Piece, but he built up his reputation on his own. He didn't become Pirate King just because he found a treasure. He had to build up his reputation, and create the title on his merit alone. A reputation that was so great, that modern day people would only consider someone as the Pirate King, once they achieve what Roger did, and that was Conquering the Grand line.

They had different goals and unusual goals, which makes life easier for ROGER to get the ONE PIECE, yes I understand that Roger needed other achievements to boost his title, Roger was not a great pirate for nothing, but before ONE PIECE ROGER was like the current emperors... Territories, influence, military power... In short, it had basically the same influence as an emperor and got the one piece when no one disputed it. It also had a well-structured crew, while those of the others were under development.


If the current kaido is the strongest living creature that has ever built countless stories and on his own merits according to NOVEL ACE is considered the best single fighter, he is a great pirate, he arrives in WANO, kneels down and asks ODEN to go with him, and luckily none of the current emperors have a ROAD (None of them are interested in ONE PIECE, but the seas are still rough...)

Look what a bizarre story, Kaido already has a ROAD, finds the other one is in ZOU and the third in WANO (he gets this information from NEKO and ODEN), they end up meeting the last one along the way.

KAIDO with the influence he currently has, just like any emperor can be a PK.
Big Pirate + One piece = PK.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

They had different goals and unusual goals, which makes life easier for ROGER to get the ONE PIECE, yes I understand that Roger needed other achievements to boost his title, Roger was not a great pirate for nothing, but before ONE PIECE ROGER was like the current emperors... Territories, influence, military power... In short, it had basically the same influence as an emperor and got the one piece when no one disputed it. It also had a well-structured crew, while those of the others were under development.


If the current kaido is the strongest living creature that has ever built countless stories and on his own merits according to NOVEL ACE is considered the best single fighter, he is a great pirate, he arrives in WANO, kneels down and asks ODEN to go with him, and luckily none of the current emperors have a ROAD (None of them are interested in ONE PIECE, but the seas are still rough...)

Look what a bizarre story, Kaido already has a ROAD, finds the other one is in ZOU and the third in WANO (he gets this information from NEKO and ODEN), they end up meeting the last one along the way.

KAIDO with the influence he currently has, just like any emperor can be a PK.
Big Pirate + One piece = PK.

Roger went up against Xebec so he did have competition

 

[Iam25]

Except Chinjao stated that back during Roger's Era, the seas were a much more dangerous place. You're focusing on quantity over quality here. Roger might not have had as many people in competition with him, but those who were around back then, were considered the cream of the crop. Roger was a pirate for over 30 years, fighting against these people.

Roger set the precedent to becoming Pirate King, and it took him a 30 year long career to do it. Yeah it took him 3 years after learning about the One Piece, but he built up his reputation on his own. He didn't become Pirate King just because he found a treasure. He had to build up his reputation, and create the title on his merit alone. A reputation that was so great, that modern day people would only consider someone as the Pirate King, once they achieve what Roger did, and that was Conquering the Grand line.

Lol no its the great age of piracy the pirates backed then were nowhere near as dangerous. Its why the government is so desperate they even recruited the warlords.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Roger went up against Xebec so he did have competition

I'm not talking about competing in terms of fighting, XEBEC wanted to achieve what?

The information given to us is that he wanted to be king of the world and not king of pirates.

I'm talking about the pirate king,about getting the ONE PIECE.

Who dominated the seas at the time was the ROCKS, Roger didn't need to do much, they just needed to kneel to GARP as he did to ODEN to help him defeat XEBEC, after that they conquered the grand Line.

 

[Rosella.Fiamingo]

I mean this has been obvious for a very long time. Roger literally had no competition because back then no one gave a shit about laugh tale but him. Sort of an empty title if you ask me. (For Roger not for Luffy)

Roger played it on easy mode. Luffy is playing on Extreme difficulty+

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

I mean this has been obvious for a very long time. Roger literally had no competition because back then no one gave a shit about laugh tale but him. Sort of an empty title if you ask me. (For Roger not for Luffy)

Roger played it on easy mode. Luffy is playing on Extreme difficulty+

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...that-goal-the-famous-luck.17249/#post-1884062
There's that topic too.

 

[Vanlax]

- Kaido could easily read Oden's journal
- Shanks could ask Rayleigh
- Big mom could have Elbaf army if Lola married the giant, and defeat Yonko
- WB could accept Roger's offer

It got to the point that KAIDO's own daughter knew where to find ONE PIECE, but KAIDO didn't.
BIG MOM's daughter only needed to kiss one mouth.

When ODA said that YONKOUS are the closest to ONE PIECE, he wasn't kidding.
Kaido practically sleeps with ONE PIECE at home/location/path/diary story.

YONKOUS have always been one step away from ONE PIECE, but because of "bad luck", they never got it.

Any emperor could be PK. The ONE PIECE is reserved, that's why the emperors couldn't get it.

But at some point in history each emperor has always been within inches of the ONE PIECE and for plot purposes never managed to catch up, and they're all vying for it in an era 50x harder than the Roger era. But people still treat Roger like a god, the man who never had to fight a fight to the death for a ROAD and putting the man up there, the way he managed to get the ONE PIECE was pathetic and easy.

Exactly, that's why imho PK title and One Piece race is pointless.

PK title doesnt really mean anything unless it's the MC Luffy. If Kaido or BM became PK, its still the same because they cannot do anything anyways. They are still going to be at war with other pirates. Not even two Yonko crew can defeat the Navy as well. Roger couldn't do anything after finding Laugh Tale, he literally gave up and hoped his will gets passed on.

Only Luffy is the chosen one because not only the ancient weapons are needed, but also because he is the only one with the ability to make ally of every nation there is. No one else can do that. There's no competition from the current era as well. Law became a support char for Luffy. Kidd & Killer are levels below Luffy & Zoro. Maybe BB has a chance, but how...

 

[Seraphoenix]

Except Chinjao stated that back during Roger's Era, the seas were a much more dangerous place. You're focusing on quantity over quality here. Roger might not have had as many people in competition with him, but those who were around back then, were considered the cream of the crop. Roger was a pirate for over 30 years, fighting against these people.

Roger set the precedent to becoming Pirate King, and it took him a 30 year long career to do it. Yeah it took him 3 years after learning about the One Piece, but he built up his reputation on his own. He didn't become Pirate King just because he found a treasure. He had to build up his reputation, and create the title on his merit alone. A reputation that was so great, that modern day people would only consider someone as the Pirate King, once they achieve what Roger did, and that was Conquering the Grand line.

Where did Chinjao state that?

Roger was a Great Pirate after defeating Xebec. WB also later became a Great Pirate. So Roger only had to overcome WB. He did it the easy way by begging WB for Oden instead of fighting him for it.

To become PK in the current age you have to actually beat the Great Pirates. Luffy can't beg BM or Kaido for their poneglyphs

 

[Human D Luffy]

Overall good analysis.

A few caveats:

1) We don't exactly know if other great pirates (yonkos of the past) have gone after Rogers in order to steal his Road Poneglyphs.
2) It is unknown to us what is in laugh tale. Could there someone/some monsters residing there that are extraordinarily powerful that Roger has overcome?
3) Roger's journey is made difficult also due to his failing health. As you have mentioned, Roger's difficulty level might be lower than Luffy's. But Roger is playing the game at 10 hp, whereas Luffy is playing it at 100 hp.