Break Week It is the emperors who make the PK title difficult and impressive.
Roger also had to stand up to Rocks who was far more above than any individual Yonko before even being in the position to find Raftel. Of course he had Garp's help in the final battle, but the fact that Roger managed to rival him is still very impressive. It arguably proves that he would eventually come out on top even in the current era (if we take EOS BB out of the picture)
Also if you actually read the manga it is clear that the PK title is impressive because it means being as great as Roger was, who still is considered to be the greatest pirate ever.
Also if you actually read the manga it is clear that the PK title is impressive because it means being as great as Roger was, who still is considered to be the greatest pirate ever.
1. The crew he managed to assemble was of a far higher caliber than any Yonko crew, he practically made every pirate top tier / future top tier bar Roger & his boys follow him
2. The alliance of Kaido and BM was likened to "the return of Rocks Pirates" so Rocks Pirates are implied to had been a force similar to 2 Yonko crews
3. Marines and Roger decided to ally against him
Are there any signs that actually imply that he was NOT a bigger threat than a single Yonko?
2. The alliance of Kaido and BM was likened to "the return of Rocks Pirates" so Rocks Pirates are implied to had been a force similar to 2 Yonko crews
3. Marines and Roger decided to ally against him
Are there any signs that actually imply that he was NOT a bigger threat than a single Yonko?
Yep, no competition prior to Roger's era because the PK title was nonexistent before he reached the Laugh Tale...
In an "ideal" scenario, you can be a PK without dealing with the Yonko... It's just that they hostage 2 of the Road Poneglyphs...
This story is a narrative about Luffy's journey towards that almost impossible task... So nothing surprising, really...
In an "ideal" scenario, you can be a PK without dealing with the Yonko... It's just that they hostage 2 of the Road Poneglyphs...
This story is a narrative about Luffy's journey towards that almost impossible task... So nothing surprising, really...
Dude, Pirate King was impressive before the Yonko even exist 
Hell, none of the current Yonko were Great Pirate in Roger era; not even Linlin who didn't care for piracy back than and remain in her territory and only return to piracy for the One Piece
Hell, none of the current Yonko were Great Pirate in Roger era; not even Linlin who didn't care for piracy back than and remain in her territory and only return to piracy for the One Piece
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That's exactly what I wanted to know, the emperors spent way too much time serving ROCKS, and when the ROCKS pirates came to be undone, ROGER already had the best crew, he had a great and well-structured crew for him to achieve achievements and achievements. it was easier, while people like Kaido or WB and Big Mom at that point couldn't compete with Roger because they were still recruiting people, structuring their crews, I'll give you the perfect example.
The Whitebeard Crew in MF > WB Crew that faced Roger, where it clearly demonstrated that MARCO, JOZU was less experienced, very young.
Now imagine the WB crew at peak, as it was in MF, but with WB PRIME at its height, that's basically what Roger had.
His crew at the peak, and so does he.
So taking ROGER in front of everyone at that time is acceptable, because only WB and BIG Mom and Shiki could compete with Roger 1v1, but overall the crew of Roger > WB, Big Mom at that time, the crews of both were in development and off peak, while ROGE had the most well-structured and strongest crew, with members at the peak of their strength, in comparison JOZU and MARCO were like children.
And ROGER's feat in taking down the ROCKS isn't just his, he got help from GARP and the navy... This is a feat shared by the information we have so far, and no, XEBEC was never placed above any sea emperor, his goal was to conquer the world, and kaido wants the same, does that mean kaido > others ? Of course not, but through information that the manga gives us, kaido top 1 > others.
Without ONE PIECE, ROGER would just be a big pirate like WB, KAIDO, BIG MOM, SHANKS.
And since ROGER's title was easily conquered, no need for extreme battles, no need to defeat powerful opponents, individual great pirates to become the king of pirates, he remains at the strength level of the great pirates.
Being called the GREAT PIRATE was the biggest pinnacle of piracy after PK, which ROGER effortlessly managed.
GREAT PIRATE = LOGER, BIG MOM, KAIDO, SHANKS,WB.
WB WSM> LOGER.
Lead.
The current luffy will manage to be PK with effort and beating all the great pirates, something that ROGER never did to be considered above the great pirates of the past era.
ROGER never had any title that implied:
ROGER > BIG MOM.
ROGER > WB.
(In strength, know how to distinguish strength from conquest.)
The timing was perfect for ROGER, he really could beat all the other competitors (competitors in piracy and not ONE PIECE) in generalized (open) battles, because he caught all the emperors and even Whitebeard who even being the strongest individually, also had a crew in development, yeah just looking at MARCO and JOZU the guys looked like children.
Whitebeard could challenge Roger individually, Big Mom could do the same, but to defeat ROGER they had no resources, they were underdeveloped at the time, with children on their ships. lol
ROGER isn't everything you make it out to be, luffy is going to be about 900x more.
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It's simply dishonest to say Roger never had to prove himself combat-wise. In the current era, we know new crews either get destroyed or absorbed by the Yonkos which makes them the gatekeepers. Roger was in a similar situation against Rocks and he managed to prevail. Even when you argue that Roger was in a better position than the rest after Rocks Pirates disbanded, this is purely due to fact that everyone else joined Rocks' overwhelming strength instead of competing with him.
Luffy obviously will not only succeed Roger but also surpass him, but the reason for that isn't that he has to beat the likes of BM and Kaido to reach Raftel, it's because of what he will do AFTER finding Raftel. This should be clear to anyone with a speck of reading comprehension that doesn't have a Yonko wank agenda.
Luffy obviously will not only succeed Roger but also surpass him, but the reason for that isn't that he has to beat the likes of BM and Kaido to reach Raftel, it's because of what he will do AFTER finding Raftel. This should be clear to anyone with a speck of reading comprehension that doesn't have a Yonko wank agenda.
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My God.
Okay, I'm just doing this to satisfy my schedule.
It destroyed me in discussions.
What ROGER did was play football alone, 11 players on the field but no opponents, they were literally kicking the ball into the goal, which had no goalkeeper to defend it.
In short, Roger won a trophy, against which no one competed against Roger's team.
And luffy will win a championship, with all teams competing against him.
While Luffy is playing against other teams competitively to score a goal is much more difficult.
And besides, you're misinterpreting chinjao's statement...
The current way to become the pirate king is by defeating the admirals and emperors they are the ones who stand in the way of those who seek to be PK.
The white beard was stronger than Roger according to his title, Big Mom the great pirate, was never defeated by Roger as captain.
The current way to get the ONE PIECE is different from the way ROGER got it, roger didn't necessarily have to defeat all the admirals and great pirates in his day.
That's why whoever gets the ONE PIECE in this era will surpass ROGER, because this era is the hardest of all to obtain the ONE PIECE.
Okay, I'm just doing this to satisfy my schedule.
It destroyed me in discussions.
What ROGER did was play football alone, 11 players on the field but no opponents, they were literally kicking the ball into the goal, which had no goalkeeper to defend it.
In short, Roger won a trophy, against which no one competed against Roger's team.
And luffy will win a championship, with all teams competing against him.
While Luffy is playing against other teams competitively to score a goal is much more difficult.
And besides, you're misinterpreting chinjao's statement...
The current way to become the pirate king is by defeating the admirals and emperors they are the ones who stand in the way of those who seek to be PK.
The white beard was stronger than Roger according to his title, Big Mom the great pirate, was never defeated by Roger as captain.
The current way to get the ONE PIECE is different from the way ROGER got it, roger didn't necessarily have to defeat all the admirals and great pirates in his day.
That's why whoever gets the ONE PIECE in this era will surpass ROGER, because this era is the hardest of all to obtain the ONE PIECE.
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Biggest roadblock to become PK are the >>>>Road<<<< Poneglyphs.
Not only there are just 4 of them in the world, you need all of these four, AND you need someone that can translate some dead language.
Big Mom is trying to awaken Pudding's third eye power to see if she can read it, Crydo is...whatever.
Blackbeard probably has some kind of shenanigan that depends on someone else finding and translating the poneglyphs first, so he can steal the info.
Shanks is shanks.
Point is.
The 4 of them are just WAITING for something to happen. Because they can't actually set sail around the world and find it.
Even more than that, EVEN IF they find it, there's still some final gimmick that depends on some special point in time.
It's not a matter of "power". It's a matter that there are too much "gatekeeping" mechanics for anyone to deal with.
Unless you're the Chosen One. Then the world will bend itself to make sure you get everything you want.
Not only there are just 4 of them in the world, you need all of these four, AND you need someone that can translate some dead language.
Big Mom is trying to awaken Pudding's third eye power to see if she can read it, Crydo is...whatever.
Blackbeard probably has some kind of shenanigan that depends on someone else finding and translating the poneglyphs first, so he can steal the info.
Shanks is shanks.
Point is.
The 4 of them are just WAITING for something to happen. Because they can't actually set sail around the world and find it.
Even more than that, EVEN IF they find it, there's still some final gimmick that depends on some special point in time.
It's not a matter of "power". It's a matter that there are too much "gatekeeping" mechanics for anyone to deal with.
Unless you're the Chosen One. Then the world will bend itself to make sure you get everything you want.