Speculations Did Kuma kill/kidnap Kuina?

[BlackLegFring]

We’re now turning Kuma into a serial killer?

 

[Thaidakar]

Falling down the stairs is a metaphor for suicide in japan btw.Kuina killed herself.

"Fell down the stairs" is sometimes used for hiding fighting, bullying or domestic violence, but as for Kuina's case, she probably fell down the stairs literally. (Still controversial among Japanese fans, though)
Here's a quote from a sub reddit that's called 'askajapanese'. Someone asked the exact question about a person in a certain anime. In case you're more Japanese than this guy (or the others there) I'll believe you. Couldn't find a confirmation for that idiom.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think the stairs is just a euphemism for suicide

 

[NAMELESS]

"Fell down the stairs" is sometimes used for hiding fighting, bullying or domestic violence, but as for Kuina's case, she probably fell down the stairs literally. (Still controversial among Japanese fans, though)
Here's a quote from a sub reddit that's called 'askajapanese'. Someone asked the exact question about a person in a certain anime. In case you're more Japanese than this guy (or the others there) I'll believe you. Couldn't find a confirmation for that idiom.

I read somewhere that is was a way to say someone killed themselves.It was a japanese source too,but it was long ago.I don't a have a link to back this up.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'm 1000% certain her dad pushed her

What

 

[Yoho]

What

Kuina's dad not wanting a woman let alone his own daughter surpass his and become head of the clan pushed her down the steps then stabbed her they don't have dna evidence or finger printing in the one piece world so saying she fell and landed on her sword is easy to fake

 

[Midnight Delight]

Nk

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Fun fact, on a tomb next to Kuina's you can read something that in Japanese sounds like Ivankov's name.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Kuina's dad not wanting a woman let alone his own daughter surpass his and become head of the clan pushed her down the steps then stabbed her they don't have dna evidence or finger printing in the one piece world so saying she fell and landed on her sword is easy to fake

I highly doubt this tbh. Too dark and it's extremely out of the blue

 

[Yoho]

I highly doubt this tbh. Too dark and it's extremely out of the blue

Too Dark? A story with Mass genocide, sexual abuse, enslavement, patricide and many other events that many would consider dark

You draw the line at a man who killed his own daughter?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Too Dark? A story with Mass genocide, sexual abuse, enslavement, patricide and many other events that many would consider dark

You draw the line at a man who killed his own daughter?

Fair

 

[RiShin]

Too Dark? A story with Mass genocide, sexual abuse, enslavement, patricide and many other events that many would consider dark

You draw the line at a man who killed his own daughter?

That is a new plot element for Oda to write. Having a sicko/sexist person pretending to be a good guy becsuse he wanted Zoro to be his son/Dojo head eventually.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Redon will be angry to give to early spoilers

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

I read somewhere that is was a way to say someone killed themselves.It was a japanese source too,but it was long ago.I don't a have a link to back this up.

I already posted about it a while ago. There is no specific euphemism but child suicide was an epidemic in Japan in the late 90s and many families would prefer to say it was an accident of some kind than admit it's suicide

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

No this was Down D. Stairs’s doing.

 

[grey matter]

Kuina's dad not wanting a woman let alone his own daughter surpass his and become head of the clan pushed her down the steps then stabbed her they don't have dna evidence or finger printing in the one piece world so saying she fell and landed on her sword is easy to fake

 

[Moegara]

Isn't the flashback just like around a year or less before Luffy leaves for the sea? What's Kuma going to push down the stairs? Her corpse?