They aren't the same? tf are you waffling about?
I should be the one asking you this.
How tf do you think those two panels are the same?
Kuzan vs Garp:
This clash caused a haki shockwave similar to the one which Garp launched at the start:
Then you have Sabo vs Burgess:
You see at the first two panels how this shockwave destroyed the nearby buildings. Sabo vs Burgess clash merely caused a pressure around them.
That's not the same.
Headcanons, No adv CoC was used since there's no lightning on his hands
We see huge and thick haki traits, a gigantic shockwave - so there's no way for me to assume it's not ACoC because no normal armament haki creates this kind of environmental effect.
Here, some references:
Doffy vs Luffy clash:
That's more akin to what Kuzan and Garp did.
Katakuri vs Luffy CoC clash even shows a real shockwave which is almost the same to that what we've seen from Garp (and Kuzan):
The environmental damage, the shockwave, the huge haki traits.
I rest my case.
don't forget to mention it's a WEAKENED GARP .
So what? Did Garp lose 70% of his punching strength or how does that matter if he was weakened or not?
Does that matter if Luffy was healthy:
Or that:
Or that:
Or what's about that:
And what's about those three:
All of those panels are finishing moves where Luffy was at the brink of losing the battle, either through the sustained injuries or due to complete exhaustion.
"Garp was weakened", yes, he was weakened because he was soon defeated. What does it mean? A healthy Garp would take much more than that what ultimately defeated him. It's complete headcanon to assume his punching strength and haki got reduced to nearly 30%.
Clashing equally /=/ using Haki shockwaves and trails scaling.
Both Garp and Aokiji punched each other, and don't forget this is A WEAKENED GARP.
Oda mentioned it two times before the clash so you can understand why the equal clash's happened.
It was clearly an equal exchange between their fists, otherwise Garp's haki shockwave would overpower Kuzan's if his was simply weaker.
Irrelevant if it was weakened Garp or not.
Oda made us understand why Garp was soon defeated afterwards. Kuzan also made clear none of the fodders still stand a chance against Garp even if he lost all his limps. Are we just gonna ignore that?
Garp and Don Chinjao clashed equally with armament, Kuzan used his DF with armament haki to punch a WEAKENED GARP who used CoA with no indication of advCoC usage.
1.) Garp and Chinjao equally clashed until Garp overpowered and crushed Chinjao's strongest weapon.
2.) Ice. Gloves. Simple ice gloves. Believe me, Kuzan's own Haki was so much more important than that extra layer of ice because Garp can casually destroy thick ice layers just by flexing.
3.) Garp still used ACoC on that clash because like I said, no ordinary Haki causes such effects on the environment like either ACoA or ACoC. Pick one of the two.
Yes, fodders losing their hope against a weakened Garp.
It's not like I've been telling you countless times how useless the fodders really were, especially since Kuzan already highlighted how they stand no chance against Garp even if he was losing all his limps:
The only real assist was Shiryu sneaking up to stab Garp, that was the real nerf.
Cracker? Holdem? Kizaru?
Bro is caught lying.
No.
I didn't consider Holdem, Cracker or Kizaru as the main villains in their respective arcs.
Doflamingo is the antagonist of Dressrosa.
Katakuri is the antagonist of Whole Cake Island.
Kaido is the antagonist of Wano Kuni.
The Gorosei - or to be more specific, Saturn - are the antagonists of Egghead Island.
Anyway the whole "previous enemy has X so future enemy will have too" doesn't work after Kaido and Big Mom didn't have awakening while fodders like Doffy and Kuri did.
All of those characters have one thing in common: CoC.
So I have no reason to assume Akainu magically doesn't have CoC even if he's the main villain of the respective arc when he's fighting Luffy.
