I am a big time Garp fan, as many of you might already know. I think he's among the top 5-6 best non-SH written characters, and would whoop Roger or Newgate... However, the more in depth I get with the marines the more I come to terms with he might not be the strongest marine.
SBS 8 (Post-Chapter 66)
In SBS 8 of the series Oda was asked about where Coby ranked in the marines, and whether Captain was the highest rank.
In reply to this reader Oda gave us this chart of the Marine Ranks. And in that chart while giving us the marine ranks he also mentions another rank... World Government Commander-in-Chief.:
Before even 100 chapters of the series, the idea of the World Government having a military individual above the Fleet Admiral and above the Marines in general, was already there. With this y'all might already get which character I'm going towards this.
Importance of Fleet Admiral:
Even 50+ years back the position of Admirals was considered a powerful position. And the position of Fleet Admiral being considered a highly touted powerful position even back then.
The Greatest Prodigy:
Fleet Admiral was introduced in chapter 234, with Sengoku. Then those who held the 2nd highest rank that was mentioned in sbs 8, Admiral.. introduced in 303 with Kuzan's debut. And then in chapter 594, after over 500+ chapters since the rank was dropped, Oda introduces the man that's above even the Marines:
In terms of size among the Marine Top Tiers, he's the tallest and biggest guy. With being noticeably bigger than Sengoku who is about a ft smaller than Akainu.
Now here's the crucial part:
Age of Sengoku when becoming Fleet Admiral: late 60-early 70s (was still an admiral 13 years ago)
Age of Sakazuki when becoming Fleet Admiral: 53-54
Now for reference, the youngest to become admiral that we know at the moment is 41 with Aramaki
So with that in mind...
IF Kong is relative in age to Garp and Sengoku: He'd have become Fleet Admiral sometime during his 30s
Now keep in mind, even 50+ years back Fleet Admiral position was considered a powerful position. This man became Fleet Admiral at an age where you rarely even see somebody become an Admiral.... Bruh that's absurd
And if somebody wants to say he's a decade older than Sengoku, sure, that'd put him becoming FA in his 40s. Which is roughly when people become Admirals, still absurd. And if he's a decade older than Sengoku, he's essentially 90 years old... This mf at the age of 90 is still the leader of the most powerful military in the world, while people younger than him like Garp/Sengoku essentially retired... Whitebeard/Roger dead... Lmao. This is the true leader of the WG military that Oda had planned since SBS 8.
Is he irrelevant?
Because he hasn't been shown since his last appearance, people have gone into the "oh he's not relevant" mode. Where it's a bit confusing to me, because the series is still far from over. Even now people delude themselves into thinking the WG is going to fall soon in Elbaf or arc after.. just like Egghead was meant to be the grave of the Goroseis.. it's not.. the series is still far far away from over.
The man hasn't appeared yet, but Oda made sure to drop him in the vivre card. And essentially said he's the one making the big decisions for maintaining balance in the world. And he just now appeared in the God Valley flashback with a small cameo as well.
Just like with Dragon, I don't think he has much role until the final war for combat. The military order is pretty clear. If the Admirals are present, threats to mariejois are handled by the Admirals. If the admirals are absent only then does the Fleet Admiral step in (like in case of Kuma where none of the admirals were at HQ). And naturally... the Commander in Chief would only step in if the Fleet Admiral isn't present. Thus he has no active combat role until the Final War when there's threats to mariejois that the Fleet Admiral and Admirals wouldn't be able to address. As the leader he's the last line of defense. This was also shown pretty clearly at Marineford too, where Sengoku the FA, leader, acted as the last one to act after the 3 admirals did their thing.
Now whether he's in his prime still who knows. People yapped for years about how the Gorosei would just be pencil pushers and politicians then they come busting up insane Haki. However, they also have Imu's support with regen. Now whether Kong has managed to maintain his prime strength or not, we shall see. But nonetheless... a military career at top of the World Government military leadership lasting 40-50 years and still going is absolutely insane. There isn't another known marine in the series that has anything similar... I don't know what else to call this man, other than the greatest prodigy in the known history of the Marines.
Please share you opinion, agreements or disagreements!
SBS 8 (Post-Chapter 66)
In SBS 8 of the series Oda was asked about where Coby ranked in the marines, and whether Captain was the highest rank.
D: I don't understand the Marines system very well. Is Captain the highest rank? Is Koby at the headquarters? Or a base?? Where does Lieutenant Fullbody stand?
O: This is it (→). This is the entire explanation of the Marines system in the world of "One Piece". The base Koby is in is the 153rd Branch. Officers of Captain rank and above command the bases spread out all over the world. I wonder when the day Koby advances to be an Officer will come.
(also see Marine Ranks.)
O: This is it (→). This is the entire explanation of the Marines system in the world of "One Piece". The base Koby is in is the 153rd Branch. Officers of Captain rank and above command the bases spread out all over the world. I wonder when the day Koby advances to be an Officer will come.
(also see Marine Ranks.)
Before even 100 chapters of the series, the idea of the World Government having a military individual above the Fleet Admiral and above the Marines in general, was already there. With this y'all might already get which character I'm going towards this.
Importance of Fleet Admiral:
Even 50+ years back the position of Admirals was considered a powerful position. And the position of Fleet Admiral being considered a highly touted powerful position even back then.
The Greatest Prodigy:
Fleet Admiral was introduced in chapter 234, with Sengoku. Then those who held the 2nd highest rank that was mentioned in sbs 8, Admiral.. introduced in 303 with Kuzan's debut. And then in chapter 594, after over 500+ chapters since the rank was dropped, Oda introduces the man that's above even the Marines:
In terms of size among the Marine Top Tiers, he's the tallest and biggest guy. With being noticeably bigger than Sengoku who is about a ft smaller than Akainu.
Now here's the crucial part:
Age of Sengoku when becoming Fleet Admiral: late 60-early 70s (was still an admiral 13 years ago)
Age of Sakazuki when becoming Fleet Admiral: 53-54
Now for reference, the youngest to become admiral that we know at the moment is 41 with Aramaki
So with that in mind...
IF Kong is relative in age to Garp and Sengoku: He'd have become Fleet Admiral sometime during his 30s
Now keep in mind, even 50+ years back Fleet Admiral position was considered a powerful position. This man became Fleet Admiral at an age where you rarely even see somebody become an Admiral.... Bruh that's absurd
And if somebody wants to say he's a decade older than Sengoku, sure, that'd put him becoming FA in his 40s. Which is roughly when people become Admirals, still absurd. And if he's a decade older than Sengoku, he's essentially 90 years old... This mf at the age of 90 is still the leader of the most powerful military in the world, while people younger than him like Garp/Sengoku essentially retired... Whitebeard/Roger dead... Lmao. This is the true leader of the WG military that Oda had planned since SBS 8.
Is he irrelevant?
Because he hasn't been shown since his last appearance, people have gone into the "oh he's not relevant" mode. Where it's a bit confusing to me, because the series is still far from over. Even now people delude themselves into thinking the WG is going to fall soon in Elbaf or arc after.. just like Egghead was meant to be the grave of the Goroseis.. it's not.. the series is still far far away from over.
The man hasn't appeared yet, but Oda made sure to drop him in the vivre card. And essentially said he's the one making the big decisions for maintaining balance in the world. And he just now appeared in the God Valley flashback with a small cameo as well.
Just like with Dragon, I don't think he has much role until the final war for combat. The military order is pretty clear. If the Admirals are present, threats to mariejois are handled by the Admirals. If the admirals are absent only then does the Fleet Admiral step in (like in case of Kuma where none of the admirals were at HQ). And naturally... the Commander in Chief would only step in if the Fleet Admiral isn't present. Thus he has no active combat role until the Final War when there's threats to mariejois that the Fleet Admiral and Admirals wouldn't be able to address. As the leader he's the last line of defense. This was also shown pretty clearly at Marineford too, where Sengoku the FA, leader, acted as the last one to act after the 3 admirals did their thing.
Now whether he's in his prime still who knows. People yapped for years about how the Gorosei would just be pencil pushers and politicians then they come busting up insane Haki. However, they also have Imu's support with regen. Now whether Kong has managed to maintain his prime strength or not, we shall see. But nonetheless... a military career at top of the World Government military leadership lasting 40-50 years and still going is absolutely insane. There isn't another known marine in the series that has anything similar... I don't know what else to call this man, other than the greatest prodigy in the known history of the Marines.
Please share you opinion, agreements or disagreements!
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