Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1138 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

So did Imu exist in the first war

He’s either the king that escaped or the earth god.

 

[soupongo]

I don't like to wank Oda but he's HIM.
The keys of having two different Wars are already shown in the bibles being shown different in two Eras :

@Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Fujishiro @MonsterKaido @comrade

Oda probably planned some of this stuff back in the 90s and it was supposed to happen after like alabasta, but he ended up making the story much longer with filler(basically everything after skypia till egghead)

 

[Fujishiro]

So did Imu exist in the first war

I think its plausible, hes probably the earth god.

 

[Wano Never Happened]

I imagine that a better translation when the chapter comes out will change some things about what we can gather from the Harley text.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

It probably is, because IMU is a vessel of that God

The man who stand in the top of the world is the less free man in the world.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

There's still a piece of the puzzle missing, Imu Nerona can't be the demon of the first war. Imu Nerona was a king from the twenty kingdoms

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Im going to wait for the pictures at this point.

Uh huh. You know I’m right lmfao.

Imu is one of the Twenty Kings, and I’m willing to bet (s)he was one of the weaker ones too. Probably had a sisterly relationship with Lili and her disagreement with Lili on the Poneglyphs was more akin to like, a Nami and Nojiko sisterly disagreement rather than like blood enemies.

Imu also likely attained immortality because she was one of the weaker Kings as well. The rest of the Kings were simply content to stop Nika and move on with their mortal lives, but Imu was so terrified of what Nika was trying to unleash that she resorted to unspeakable means to attain immortality and ensure that Nika could never again threaten the OP world.

Watch bro. Imu is a tragic figure, a pure hearted child like innocence turned into an unspeakable evil out of fear. Imu is more akin to a scared and terrified child than an actual demonic overlord.

I would bet my account on it lmfao.

 

[Sentinel]

I don't like to wank Oda but he's HIM.
The keys of having two different Wars are already shown in the bibles being shown different in two Eras :

@Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Fujishiro @MonsterKaido @comrade

Yep, I criticised Oda's writing a lot in the past few months but when it comes to lore, foreshadowings and world building, this man is a genius.

 

[MarineHQ]

I think its plausible, hes probably the earth god.

I'm not sure. I believe the eternal youth surgery and Law’s personality switch may have a part to play here.

 

[Hedfi]

Oh, wow, what a chapter?

We're really at the end game of OP, aren't we?

It's gonna be a big reveal after a big reveal from on it seems.

 

[comrade]

I don't like to wank Oda but he's HIM.
The keys of having two different Wars are already shown in the bibles being shown different in two Eras :

@Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Fujishiro @MonsterKaido @comrade

Yes. I've been saying this already, people are/were underestimating Oda's planning. Obviously, with such a long story, Oda will change and add details (e.g. Shichibukai), but he planned the grand scheme, he said he knew how One Piece will end since chapter 1. The hints were there throughout the story. People think Oda came up with the main lore, like Joyboy on the fly in Wano. That's nonsense.

 

[DonWick]

See previous posts the world serpent is asleep in the red line

Either way this adds so credence to Imu being strong some people thought he would just be a figure head.

 

[HA001]

Imu Nerona could just be a vessel for the primordial evil like joyboy and luffy are for nika

@Elder Lee Hung is right imu was not the original bad guy as imu was a noble

Not to say he isn't the vessel of the original bad

 

[Fujishiro]

Uh huh. You know I’m right lmfao.

Imu is one of the Twenty Kings, and I’m willing to be (s)he was one of the weaker ones too. Probably had a sisterly relationship with Lili and her disagreement with Lili on the Poneglyphs was more akin to like, a Nami and Nojiko sisterly disagreement rather than like blood enemies.

Imu also likely attained immortality because she was one of the weaker Kings as well. The rest of the Kings were simply content to stop Nika and move on with their mortal lives, but Imu was so terrified of what Nika was trying to unleash that she resorted to unspeakable means to attain immortality and ensure that Nika could never again threaten the OP world.

Watch bro. Imu is a tragic figure, a pure hearted child like innocence turned into an unspeakable evil out of fear. Imu is more akin to a scared and terrified child than an actual demonic overlord.

I would bet my account on it lmfao.

I respect the hustle lol but they're saying the winged creature has ringed eyes and every time we see Imu they zoom on their eyes lol.

 

[MonsterKaido]

So did Imu exist in the first war

Either the earth god or related to him. Like his original version just like nika is to joyboy and luffy.

 

[Welkin]

I don't see how Oda can authentically portray a fight against a planet sized serpent, let alone win, when such an entity would wipe out the planet instantly. Let the planet team up and use all 3 of the ancient weapons and it's still a drop in the bucket. I'm sure something like a large demonic serpent will be involved, but the earth encompassing is probably an exaggeration, with the red line just symbolizing the snake and not literally being the snake. Just like Whitebeard having the power to "destroy the world" is a great exaggeration.

(Could be wrong though and Oda just turns it into some DBZ shit like the Naruto endgame and the Otsutsuki aliens).

I’m pretty sure the mural/painting/whatever isn’t meant to be taken literally

Just like the whole “the world was destroyed thing” also wasn’t literal. A significant amount of damage was dealt by some unknown means that essentially “reset” the world as they knew it

In the 2nd world we know it was the flooding

Dunno what it was in the first one

 

[HellBlazer04]

That "Serpent with Hell Flames" has to be the fruit that Loki has.
That's why Loki has a special bounty, and also why the HK don't outright want to kill him.

Also I have to say, Loki might have God Tier Endurance. Even in chains and weakened he is tanking everything and staying conscious. At full HP his endurance will be off the charts.

 

[Fujishiro]

Imu Nerona could just be a vessel for the primordial evil like joyboy and luffy are for nika

@Elder Lee Hung is right imu was not the original bad guy as imu was a noble

Not to say he isn't the vessel of the original bad

Thats what Im saying.

 

[RayanOO]

Well, with this chapter we can see we are in Kaguya's terriory no doubts.

Adam tree painting vs Konoha stele

 

[Etzel Andergast]

There's still a piece of the puzzle missing, Imu Nerona can't be the demon of the first war. Imu Nerona was a king from the twenty kingdoms

Thats what I'm saying since the beginning. Imu was not around during the first world