General & Others The Two former Warlords that Kaido fought

#1
As we now know, Kaido fought two former Warlords, Moria(Before he became a Warlord) and Hanafuda.

Back when it was revealed that Kaido defeated Moria and that Moria's original crew was killed in battle, many assumed that Moria and his entire crew fought only Kaido and that's how they lost.


But during the Wano arc, we learn that wasn't the case, as it turns out, it was Kaido and his crew vs Moria and his crew.

Kaido never defeated/killed Moria's crew by himself, he needed help from his subordinates one of them being King, in order to defeat Moria and kill his crew.


Now we have the other former Warlord Hanafuda.

In volume 111 SBS, it was revealed that Hanafuda who was Ulti and Page One's father was also an ally of Kaido.

But before they became allies, both Kaido and Hanafuda used to clash in battle, however neither of them defeated the other and instead they formed an alliance due to their common goal.


Basically when it comes to the two former Warlords that Kaido fought, he needed help in order to defeat Moria and his crew.

And allied himself with Hanafuda, when neither him or Hanafuda could defeat the other in battle.

Now I'm not trying to downplay Kaido here.:hihihi:

But this gives a bit more hype to the Warlords especially Moria and Hanafuda.:Egg_cited:

Also remember this scene here with Doflamingo?

I don't think Doflamingo was only nervous on just dealing with Kaido, but more like he was nervous that Kaido and his crew could attack Dressrosa and start a war with Doflamingo and his crew, which would have also ruined his business operation.

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#3
The reading comprehension......

The SBS clearly says that Hanafuda was captivated by Kaido strength and gave it all to help his dream, pretty much like King, it's obvious that Kaido was much stronger than him, same with Moria that didn't just clash with Kaido, but got all his crew killed (not even Kid suffered this).

Besides that, we've seen Kaido, Moria and Doffy in battle, u just need to read the manga to understand the miles between then.

Doffy was defeated by G4 Luffy, Kaido one-shot a even stronger G4 Luffy at Wano start, Kaido wouldn't need the Beast Pirates to destroy all the buns that made the Donquixote family


When Kaido killed Luffy before his G5 and entered back in Onigashima, everyone knew they were fucked because Kaido could kill all of then.
 
#5
Not prime yonkos = warlords.

Same thing with Shanks, using to fight equally with Mihawk before reaching his prime years later fighting monsters like Loki. I think Shanks reached his prime against the cursed prince.

Warlords are like pirates that failed to still be equal to yonkos.

Not defending kaido tho, he is a fraud and no way the top 1 in the verse. I don't know if I have kaido in my top 25 to be honest, maybe he barely is in it. For sure out of my top 20.
 
#7
Moria and the entire new world was mostly fake hype on Odas part. He acted like Kaido killed his crew the second they reached the new world, like no, you purposefully attacked him on his territory lol
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How is that even possible if they clashed repeatedly and routinely yet Kaido could never get the upper hand on Hanafuda. If Kaido was much stronger than him, Kaido would’ve beaten him or overpowered him at least once but this was never mentioned.
Also,they were allies, implying some level of equality. As opposed to like Hawkins X drake who just became his subordinates
 
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#8
Are admirals fans still angry about
- " If kaidou was alive I wouldn't come here "
- " Shanks bitching two Admirals "?

It clearly stated that Hanafuda respected kaidou in strength so much he decided to Follow him lmao.

As Pirates they clashed in past , means it could be the easy 27 year Kaidou when he formed his crew and fought him lol.


" Luffy clashed with Buggy in the past "
Ahh yess , when Luffy becomes Pirate king , Buggy will ofc be relative moment lol.
 
#9
Are admirals fans still angry about
- " If kaidou was alive I wouldn't come here "
- " Shanks bitching two Admirals "?

It clearly stated that Hanafuda respected kaidou in strength so much he decided to Follow him lmao.

As Pirates they clashed in past , means it could be the easy 27 year Kaidou when he formed his crew and fought him lol.


" Luffy clashed with Buggy in the past "
Ahh yess , when Luffy becomes Pirate king , Buggy will ofc be relative moment lol.
Why didnt he join the beast pirates then?
 
#12
Like chinjao vs strongest Marine garp
Little troll lanjitard
Well it´s worth pointing out he isn´t stated to have lost, so I´m not sure if this character is supposed to be weak, or maybe he was strong back in the day, and then declined before losing to Ace(like how croco became weak)
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What if he already was warlord even before Meeting Kaidou.
He was probably using ranks as to get access to more and more Devil fruits.
After being banished , first thing he did was to go back to his kids who are again with kaidou.
This is interesting, I guess. But I don´t think being a warlord would give him fruits or anything. I have no idea what the point of this char is lol
 
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Jailer

#13
Did you speed read the part where Hanafuda was in awe of Kaido's strength and was one of MANY who want to make him PK? Holy shit you have become pathetic @DarkWitch
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Why didnt he join the beast pirates then?
Because he can't remain a warlord and a beast pirate at the same time, he remained a warlord who worked actively to make Kaido pirate king
 
#14
Did you speed read the part where Hanafuda was in awe of Kaido's strength and was one of MANY who want to make him PK? Holy shit you have become pathetic @DarkWitch
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Because he can't remain a warlord and a beast pirate at the same time, he remained a warlord who worked actively to make Kaido pirate king
Why did he not just pick one?
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Comparing Hanafunda to King the coc sucker doesn´t make sense. He is most likely comparable to Doflamingo, who basically replaced him.
 
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Jailer

#15
Why did he not just pick one?
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Comparing Hanafunda to King the coc sucker doesn´t make sense. He is most likely comparable to Doflamingo, who basically replaced him.
Because why not having a mole in the WG/Marines/Underworld? He was working actively to make Kaido pirate king after all being in awe of his strength
 
#16
Because why not having a mole in the WG/Marines/Underworld? He was working actively to make Kaido pirate king after all being in awe of his strength
You´re using headcanon but this doesn´t really make sense. Since when do warlords get classified info?
 
#17
Did you speed read the part where Hanafuda was in awe of Kaido's strength and was one of MANY who want to make him PK? Holy shit you have become pathetic @DarkWitch
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Because he can't remain a warlord and a beast pirate at the same time, he remained a warlord who worked actively to make Kaido pirate king
Darkwitch just wants to fit in with the Admiral bros lol
He doesn't actually believe any of this, he just wants them to accept him and welcome him as part of the gang
 
#18
And people dont understand why Kaido does not have same amount of respect as Whitebeard. Whitebeard rival was Roger a pirate king , meanwhile Kaido rival was Hanafuda a mere warlord :doffytroll::doffytroll:
 
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