Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1143 Spoilers Discussion

[The DevilMaster]

This panel is funny because some say that Luffy was knocked out however the air inside his muscles was not released.

 

[ZenZu]

Another interesting comparison. Gear 4 debute was in chapter 784 in which Boundman dogwalked Doffy from activation till end of the chapter. Oda had fodder comment on how hard Luffy beat his ass.

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Exactly 100 chapters later in 884 Luffy activated Gear 4 on Kuri and smacked him around, but Kuri's back didn't even touch the ground and he recovered and countered the living fuck out of Boundman. Katakuri even commented how he is STILL dominating Luffy. When Doffy tried to attack Luffy he bounced off of him like a fodder.

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A chapter later Luffy ran out of G4 after doing jack to Kuri while Doffy had to take an entire round to the chin and only survived BECAUSE Luffy ran out of gas.
Lmfao. What a direct comparison this is.
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Katakuri's durability/endurance is criminally underrated. He took a Kong Gun and looked like this, didn't even leave his feet.

I shit you not I didn't edit the panel.

The community has gaslit themselves about Katakuri for so long they started believing in these lies, about his AP, his endurance, etc. This dude was the entire package. Everything he did was at a high level, no weaknesses.

 

[kekaro]

Lol do you really believe Sanji's speed is too much for Kinemon?

Doffy said Sanji is strong and use parasite on him
Doffy ragdolled Kinemon with 1 string

 

[SakazOuki]

You had me until this.

Doffy’s awakening did stall Gear 4, and this was even after Doffy was nerfed to all hell by Gamma Knife.

Kuri vs Doffy is whatever, but I’m already prepared for all the morons who will say EOS Doffy got a powerup instead of just acknowledging that they were wrong about Gamma Knife from the start. Lol

Gamma Knife followed by counter shock too
He also got hit by injection shot and red hawk prior to that
To put him down for good Luffy literally split Dressrosa in half

 

[Erkan12]

This is by far the most retarded good guy wank I've ever seen in my life. Seriously, imagine if Rayleigh showed up at Dressrosa, Doffy would have a heart attack

That was just an excuse for saving Devon, Vasco and Hancock's lives and kidnapping Koby instead. Oda knew it didn't make sense so he had Rayleigh saying Teach would beat his ass if they fought.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yes because Kinemon is fodder to the supreme donquixote officers, the fact he hurt Crydo makes it all the more hilarious
And a mortally wounded Kinemon is too much for Tobi Roppo to handle
Do the math

Meanwhile Sanji fought King and Queen 2v1 for a while

Vergo doesn't have the DC to take down the golem. I guess Vergo < Pica, right?

 

[Sentinel]

Watakuri is basically a more complete version of Doffy, having advanced CoA and CoO in his pocket. I think a healthy Doffy starting out with awaken against a healthy boundman would've easily worn him out though. The fact Luffy could barely stand, looked like hell according to Sabo and had to tear for 3 days, is testament on how Doffy even while severely weakened prior to the usage of awakening, wore Luffy down.

You know, I used to put Doflamingo below YC1 because of Katakuri but it turned out, Katakuri's expectations were even too high for the likes of Marco and King. None of them even have CoC or awakening.

Now I have Doflamingo on YC1 level, Lord Kuri is just built different man.

Honestly, that was the only fight when I saw Luffy being constantly bloodied like that. He never stopped bleeding.

 

[Buusatan94]

Katakuri is the one who got the longer end of the stick and that's already a miracle that he got off so well compared to his family and other YC knowing how nerfed he was himself and how much and many times Oda messed with him as well.

 

[kekaro]

That pace is going to give us all brainrot soon.

Lobotomy Kaisen needs a succesor

 

[MarineHQ]

Katakuri's durability/endurance is criminally underrated. He took a Kong Gun and looked like this

I shit you not I didn't edit the panel.

The community has gaslit themselves about Katakuri for so long they started believing in these lies, about his AP, his endurance, etc. This dude was the entire package. Everything he did was at a high level, no weaknesses.

His AP is crazy. There are not many that take Buzz cut Mochi to the face and walk it off like nothing happened.

AP, versatility, haki, awakening, stamina (fought for 10hrs spamming Observation and armament), durability and endurance. He literally danced around Snakeman with a serious wound and several hrs of fatigue on his back.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Doffy said Sanji is strong

 

[MonsterZoro]

Zoro and Sanji fans got clowned

 

[SakazOuki]

Vergo doesn't have the DC to take down the golem. I guess Vergo < Pica, right?

Pica can never tag Vergo, he’s never gonna be above him
And you don’t have to destroy the entire golem to take Pica out, Zoro was hurting him even when he was inside, he just didn’t have the aerial mobility and speed to keep at it
Vergo easily deals with Pica, his shockwaves can bend hardened steel, Pica would be shitting blood from inside the golem

 

[SakazOuki]

Marco > Katakuri is not debatable

 

[ZenZu]

His AP is crazy. There are not many that take Buzz cut Mochi to the face and walk it off like nothing happened.

 

[kekaro]

And Luffy also said Sanji is strong and worth 2000 man
Fun fact, thats half of wano forces
Now produce the statement and seriousness from doffy about kinemon
expert tip: you cant

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Pica can never tag Vergo, he’s never gonna be above him
And you don’t have to destroy the entire golem to take Pica out, Zoro was hurting him even when he was inside, he just didn’t have the aerial mobility and speed to keep at it
Vergo easily deals with Pica, his shockwaves can bend hardened steel, Pica would be shitting blood from inside the golem

Don't you need to hurt the part of the golem that Pica is actually in?
Vergo's not going to be capable of doing that with how fast Pica can shift between the different parts of the golem.
Not even Zoro was capable of doing it until he split it in half.
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And Luffy also said Sanji is strong and worth 2000 man
Fun fact, thats half of wano forces
Now produce the statement and seriousness from doffy about kinemon
expert tip: you cant

Because Doffy has like one interaction with Kinemon.
But we do see Jack hype the Scabbards and say that even the wounded Scabbards are above the Tobiroppo, which is great portrayal.

 

[Francher Styles]

15 chapters into Elbaf and Luffy hasn't had a single 1v1 against someone.

After 9 chapters, Egghead had Luffy vs Lucci
After 12 chapters, Wano had Luffy vs Kaido
After 11 chapters, WCI had Luffy vs Cracker
After 12 chapters, Dressrosa had Law vs Fuji vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs the coliseum

Wth is this pacing Oda?

 

[SakazOuki]

Don't you need to hurt the part of the golem that Pica is actually in?
Vergo's not going to be capable of doing that with how fast Pica can shift between the different parts of the golem.
Not even Zoro was capable of doing it until he split it in half.
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Because Doffy has like one interaction with Kinemon.
But we do see Jack hype the Scabbards and say that even the wounded Scabbards are above the Tobiroppo, which is great portrayal.

Zoro is a slowpoke with no aerial mobility, don’t compare him to a rokushiki master like Vergo
You have to hurt Pica not the golem

 

[Buusatan94]

Don't you need to hurt the part of the golem that Pica is actually in?
Vergo's not going to be capable of doing that with how fast Pica can shift between the different parts of the golem.
Not even Zoro was capable of doing it until he split it in half.
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Because Doffy has like one interaction with Kinemon.
But we do see Jack hype the Scabbards and say that even the wounded Scabbards are above the Tobiroppo, which is great portrayal.

Another proof of how badly Oda handled and treated the Tobi Roppo, most of the Scabbards save for the strongest shouldn't have been able of beating them.