Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1145 Spoilers Discussion

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No it’s not subjective

we as readers have had Roger from day 1

We are knowing from day 1 that Luffy wants to become PK

That Roger gave his straw hat to shanks and shanks gave it to Luffy as his most precious treasure

Roger speech in loguetown started the golden era of piracy

etc etc

Xebec is important but far less than Roger for us readers and as a driving force in OP

the story is called One piece, the treasure in Laugh tale, the place only Roger managed to reach and becoming the pirate king
Fair enough
 

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Yeah, but according to Oda himself, Xebec was trying to break the "greatest taboo in the world", whatever this mean, this is probably the most important thing in the series, or one of the most important.

But he was defeated, if he wasnt he would be considered the greatest. Its simple
Yeah he tried
And he was the head of the strongest pirate band in history

Yet he failed and was stopped by none other than Roger (and Garp)

Roger didn’t fail : he managed to reach the end of the road, be PK, and started the golden era of piracy

Roger was too early to otherwise (and likely too sick in the end)
 

I'm starting to see a pattern here
This is the third time since Dressrosa Zoro had someone propel him to reach his target. His attack speed and reaction speed are alright but his ability to cover long distances and air sucks

Just compare with a Old Garp :


he literally tagged king in the sky

U are looking for crumbs to slander him while oda just loves to make turn him into a rocket and do combo attacks with his crewmates ,

I’ll say it was only necessary against pica cause pica was really far and he didnt even want to fight zoro.
 
That should have been Kaido's flashback, his relationship with Xebec should have been a really crucial moment in his backstory, and revealed real details about Xebec and his personality and goals.
The only thing we know is that Kaido doesnt really trust in his crewmates, because according to him, pirates always betray his mates (I dont remember which chapter he says that). That means Kaido saw the rocks pirates betraying each other (and their captain) during god valley. I also think he respect Rocks, but doesn't like him. Because according to Sengoku everyone hated each other in that crew
 


he literally tagged king in the sky

U are looking for crumbs to slander him while oda just loves to make turn him into a rocket and do combo attacks with his crewmates ,

I’ll say it was only necessary against pica cause pica was really far and he didnt even want to fight zoro.
it happened three times but it is "crumbs":josad:
King is a slow fodder, literally got ragdolled by Marco in 2 vs 1
 

I'm starting to see a pattern here
This is the third time since Dressrosa Zoro had someone propel him to reach his target. His attack speed and reaction speed are alright but his ability to cover long distances and air sucks

Just compare with a Old Garp :
Yes he has horrible movement speed, even vet- low yc like vergo or doffy outclass him completely
 
Kaido is very likely stronger than Loki (I don't share the God Tier agenda), but comparing a Loki that was younger than Colon in giant age to a Kaido that already went through puberty is braindead.
The fact that Loki is Xebec fanboy end the possibility of him being a "godtier" character. He simply doesnt have the aura for that, and he is not the guy who gonna destroy the world, because who gonna do that will be or teach, or imu or luffy
 
it happened three times but it is "crumbs":josad:
King is a slow fodder, literally got ragdolled by Marco in 2 vs 1
Marko spilled a drop of blood to the King, after which, in a half-hour one-on-one battle, he inflicted zero damage on him and eventually fell, beaten, at his feet:willight:
If Marco beat up the King, then Luffy killed Kizaru:willight:
 
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