Episode Discussion Zoro vs 2 seraphins (protect Kaku and Robin&Chopper)

Which level do you put the seraphins?

  • above 1yc

    Votes: 8 29.6%
  • in between 1yc

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • below 1yc

    Votes: 7 25.9%

  • Total voters
    27
#21
@nik87 @HeroesNZ I guess now we know the limits of the Lunarians and Zoro being the only one to be able to defeat them in the story. They were sratchless after fighting the Yonko BB and his goons and they were not defeated by the other Yonko Luffy and internal damage guy Lucci. Only the grandmaster was able to defeat the Seras in battle, Nami used the bubble gun while Luffy used talk no jutsu on the other.
But we saw the seraphim being defeated, and chadbull of the blackblade no diff queen and the thoughest lunarian?
 
#25
Toei destroyed so many anti Zoro agendas
Time to upscale King even higher above the Seras.
They are nowhere near level of King the anti king agenda has always beena sinking ship created by mochi merchants who can't move on from wci. This is what defeating garbage kuri gets you againt base yonko :milaugh:

On the other hand you have to basically be top tier with the strongest haki to stand chance against King:myman:

The more serpahims advance grow higher King stocks will be twerkers mochi fanboys can't do anything about it :jordanmf:
 
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#29
yeah toei at this point is just changing things its like zorostans are in the corner because they think its wrong to accept Zoro and sanji have always been close in strength ( there has nothing in the story that goes against this point no amount of but look Sanji got used as a hype tool against doffy or but he wasn't on rooftop but no adv coc will change that fact Zoro wouldn't have done any better against doffy Zoro not being used as a hype tool doesn't go against the fact they are close in strength
Zoro got kicked off the rooftop and needed a Regen drug to get better ( to fight king who is relative to queen and sani destroyed queen after he solved his crisis mid diff and no amount of but he passed out will change that because you ignore that he passed out to counter queens trick which used up his stamina not strength)

and Sanji was going to rooftop but moved to focus on character development showing he he grew and learned to ask for help and held off king and queen.

zoros power up and Sanji's power up are equal Zoro having adv coc doesn't make him yonko level or way above Sanji someone without adv coc isn't automatically way above anyone who doesn't have it they could still extreme diff that person. that isn't what kaido meant when he said able haki conquers all ( )
Sanji stans ten to have better reading comprehension then people who think that zoro being a col fighter makes him way above Sanji or think that going well he is goofy or but he is a chef ( when Sanji having a job besides fighting is irrelevent)
or claim Sanji was eye diffed by getting hit by an eye beam once which hurt him and then hit by some technique that paralyzed him and Franky and vegapunk but for Sanji they pretend it was just the eye beam which would make no sense

or go but Ethan bit him and bonny helped him when that doesn't change the fact sanjis feat equal to zoros one just emphasizes speed the other power





"toei changed the narrative how did sanji needed nami's help for S-shark when in the manga he was manhandling him easly and zoro who was strugglin against 1 seraphim"




not to mention leaving out Sanjis fan letter



( it reminds me of zorostans trying to pretend Zoro was ever stronger then Luffy or acting like because Zoro didn't have a tough fight he didn't get stronger when the story says after every island they get stronger and time passed between dressrosa and wano so both Sanji and Zoro got stronger
Sanji fans tend to be realistic and go by facts while zorostans overhype Zoro and downplay Sanji because they think the facts offensive and this causes Sanji fans to go on the attack an give them a taste of their own medicine


( like claiming he was nerfed when he gave kaido a tiny scar or claim he wasnt using adv coc

when damage has never nerfed ap it has nerfed defense in one piece ( we see people bring out more power when seriously injured) and Zoro threw everything he had left at kaido


Zoro stans have nothing that puts Zoro above Sanji by a large amount it doesn't matter Zoro on rooftop
 
#31
yeah toei at this point is just changing things its like zorostans are in the corner because they think its wrong to accept Zoro and sanji have always been close in strength ( there has nothing in the story that goes against this point no amount of but look Sanji got used as a hype tool against doffy or but he wasn't on rooftop but no adv coc will change that fact Zoro wouldn't have done any better against doffy Zoro not being used as a hype tool doesn't go against the fact they are close in strength
Zoro got kicked off the rooftop and needed a Regen drug to get better ( to fight king who is relative to queen and sani destroyed queen after he solved his crisis mid diff and no amount of but he passed out will change that because you ignore that he passed out to counter queens trick which used up his stamina not strength)

and Sanji was going to rooftop but moved to focus on character development showing he he grew and learned to ask for help and held off king and queen.

zoros power up and Sanji's power up are equal Zoro having adv coc doesn't make him yonko level or way above Sanji someone without adv coc isn't automatically way above anyone who doesn't have it they could still extreme diff that person. that isn't what kaido meant when he said able haki conquers all ( )
Sanji stans ten to have better reading comprehension then people who think that zoro being a col fighter makes him way above Sanji or think that going well he is goofy or but he is a chef ( when Sanji having a job besides fighting is irrelevent)
or claim Sanji was eye diffed by getting hit by an eye beam once which hurt him and then hit by some technique that paralyzed him and Franky and vegapunk but for Sanji they pretend it was just the eye beam which would make no sense

or go but Ethan bit him and bonny helped him when that doesn't change the fact sanjis feat equal to zoros one just emphasizes speed the other power





"toei changed the narrative how did sanji needed nami's help for S-shark when in the manga he was manhandling him easly and zoro who was strugglin against 1 seraphim"




not to mention leaving out Sanjis fan letter



( it reminds me of zorostans trying to pretend Zoro was ever stronger then Luffy or acting like because Zoro didn't have a tough fight he didn't get stronger when the story says after every island they get stronger and time passed between dressrosa and wano so both Sanji and Zoro got stronger
Sanji fans tend to be realistic and go by facts while zorostans overhype Zoro and downplay Sanji because they think the facts offensive and this causes Sanji fans to go on the attack an give them a taste of their own medicine


( like claiming he was nerfed when he gave kaido a tiny scar or claim he wasnt using adv coc

when damage has never nerfed ap it has nerfed defense in one piece ( we see people bring out more power when seriously injured) and Zoro threw everything he had left at kaido


Zoro stans have nothing that puts Zoro above Sanji by a large amount it doesn't matter Zoro on rooftop
Lanji is nowhere near Zoro, stop spamming the forum with your bot speak. Damn parasite!:luffylaugh:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#33
@nik87 @HeroesNZ I guess now we know the limits of the Lunarians and Zoro being the only one to be able to defeat them in the story. They were sratchless after fighting the Yonko BB and his goons and they were not defeated by the other Yonko Luffy and internal damage guy Lucci. Only the grandmaster was able to defeat the Seras in battle, Nami used the bubble gun while Luffy used talk no jutsu on the other.
From what i remember, Zoro didn't beat them in the manga. :sanmoji:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#35
Anime fills in the gaps
We only saw Nami with the bubble gun and Luffy talking to SSnanke, unless you are suggesting that Nami ran around and disabled the other two or Luffy used the talk no jutsu on SHawk and SBear, I will take the anime over these ideas. Idk if they were shown in flame mode though.
Fair enough but I only use the manga itself and direct Oda's words like SBS and wherever he leaves direct statements as well as specific info in Vivre Cards like Sengoku's COC and King's bounty.
 
#36
Anime fills in the gaps
We only saw Nami with the bubble gun and Luffy talking to SSnanke, unless you are suggesting that Nami ran around and disabled the other two or Luffy used the talk no jutsu on SHawk and SBear, I will take the anime over these ideas. Idk if they were shown in flame mode though.
Anyone who uses anime as cannon material is automatically a retard
 
#38
Anyone who uses anime as cannon material is automatically a retard
Anime is canon if it fits my agenda
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Fair enough but I only use the manga itself and direct Oda's words like SBS and wherever he leaves direct statements as well as specific info in Vivre Cards like Sengoku's COC and King's bounty.
Agreed
The mediums are different, you can't have panel to panel translation in anime, the gaps must be filled or you end up with very shit animation (story and quality).
 
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