Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

What is worse for the sword nation ?


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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Garp's speed is mental
Imagine downplaying Kuzan for showing equal speed to Garp lmfao. Mihawk fans are begging and praying that Oda gives Mihawk the same portrayal as old Gaban let alone Garp lmfao.

People decided Yonko > old legends far too quickly. Oda just refuses to clown the old legends the same way he clowns the Yonko.
 
Because it's common sense her options were narrowed to take his son hostage loool
She literally says this before anyone even mentions that one of the kids is Gaban's child





And the Holy knights were talking about killing the kids if anyone resisted for two whole chapters prior to this. They'd already established that's what they were going to do regardless of who came along.
 
Oh you mean this Usopp that she dodged while even closer than the attack she just stood and took?





And Nowhere did Gunko say that her options were take a hostage or die. She just told Gaban that she'd kill a hostage if anyone came to resist.
The fact that Gaban nearly traveled the entire length of the arrow before she registered it
is clear enough.
 
Then why didn't she kill anyone when Robin was fighting Sommers

Blud is trying his best to neglect the merit from Gaban
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How would she know that Sommers was fighting Gaban?

We see her with Ronja over the cliff doing nothing until Killingham tells her to stop because the giants actually set the school on fire.
 
We’ve already seen one Gorosei go down. Saturn’s base, hybrid, and full Zoan forms were all showcased and none of them amounted to much. Despite having massive backup, he got handled the entire arc, doing nothing against even the weaker Straw Hats at times.

What's worse is he wasn't killed off due to being the weakest, but because of stupidity (he didn’t get rid of Emeth when he had the chance). That’s with regeneration, too.

Contrast that with Kizaru. Oda made it clear Kizaru was holding back, even helping Luffy at key moments. But with Saturn? No excuse was given. He got written off. And yet, he’s still supposed to represent the threat of the Gorosei.

Now we’re heading into another confrontation with these guys, but the tension’s already deflated. One of their peers got clowned and killed. And next time, the Straw Hats won’t be alone, it's legit only gonna get easier on paper lol.

Just terrible writing for the villains. I feel like they're the underdogs here lmao.
Saturn's excuse was that Luffy couldn't do a single thing to harm him and ran away scared. What more do you want? Saturn's portrayal is over Kaido.
 
How would she know that Sommers was fighting Gaban?

We see her with Ronja over the cliff doing nothing until Killingham tells her to stop because the giants actually set the school on fire.
She explicitly mentions she is seeing one of the pirate king crewmembers before making the decision of fleeing in an arrow to kill a kid
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Top 5, not sure where though. Definitively below Kizaru and Sanji though. Maybe Gaban and Venusjuro ( He covered all of egghead in seconds and shut down all the pacifistas.)
Why do you think it's definitely below Sanji?

What if we filter it to blitz speed in short bursts (Thunder Bagua, Lion's Song, etc.)
 
Yeah, because he's explicitly running to her.



What does that have to do with Gaban fighting Sommers?
Buddy, she casually played with Jinbe and co, then out of sudden she sees a famous Roger pirate and bitches away to kill a hostage and u are here saying that if this was Usopp running towards her she would've done the same thing
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Fujishiro

Just chilling
Why do you think it's definitely below Sanji?

What if we filter it to blitz speed in short bursts (Thunder Bagua, Lion's Song, etc.)
Kizaru speed kick>Bagua>Lions Song> Whatever Garp did idk the other.

For Sanji you have a point I just sometimes think hes like the second fastest dude around besides Kizaru lol.
 
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