Controversial RIP Zoro Agenda 1999 - 2025
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The N2 is always stronger than the N3
Oda confirmed who are the N2s of the main crews and groups
And confirmed that the N2 is related to strength and nothing else: no second to join, no second highest bounty, merely the second strongest
So Rayleigh > Gaban, Zoro > Sanji, Sabo > Ivankov, King > Queen, Benn > Lucky Roux, Katakuri > Cracker etc
Nothing can change this
There can be a debate about how big is the gap in strength, but it's not debatable that there is a gap big enough to have a clear N2 and a clear N3
Oda confirmed who are the N2s of the main crews and groups
And confirmed that the N2 is related to strength and nothing else: no second to join, no second highest bounty, merely the second strongest
So Rayleigh > Gaban, Zoro > Sanji, Sabo > Ivankov, King > Queen, Benn > Lucky Roux, Katakuri > Cracker etc
Nothing can change this
There can be a debate about how big is the gap in strength, but it's not debatable that there is a gap big enough to have a clear N2 and a clear N3
Hence he is not equal to luffy and you cant leech
bro negdiffed himself again.
Cooked 3 hours with this macro image probally, shame
Since it’s officially Zorover, I would like to dedicate a thread to remembering all the good times Z bros could give us before the end
Edit:
For reference the Zoro agenda was that Zoro was way above Sanji and would always be way above him.
It’s over
Edit:
For reference the Zoro agenda was that Zoro was way above Sanji and would always be way above him.
It’s over
Goodbye, Zoro Agenda. You were part of my entertainment for nearly all of my life. Though you are now forever gone, please know that I will always remember you fondly. A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. It was a privilege to have believed in you.
You don't say? N1 is literally and obviously Luffy
GOLD medal Gol D. Roger N1 > SILVER medal Silvers Rayleigh N2 > BRONZE medal (bronze is copper) Scopper Gaban N3
Just like
Luffy N1 > Zoro N2 > Sanji N3
And so on
Zoro feats don't upscale Sanji, who is Zoro's inferior
Sanji feats upscale Zoro, who is Sanji's superior
GOLD medal Gol D. Roger N1 > SILVER medal Silvers Rayleigh N2 > BRONZE medal (bronze is copper) Scopper Gaban N3
Just like
Luffy N1 > Zoro N2 > Sanji N3
And so on
Zoro feats don't upscale Sanji, who is Zoro's inferior
Sanji feats upscale Zoro, who is Sanji's superior
Not only Zoro and Luffy are portrayed as overall equal in power (though from their feats vs Gaban, you would say that Zoro is stronger)
What's interesting
Zoro factually moves as fast as Gear 5 Luffy
And both their dashes are so fast they appear like beams
What's interesting
Zoro factually moves as fast as Gear 5 Luffy
And both their dashes are so fast they appear like beams
Zoro remains significantly stronger than Sanji, nothing's magically changed there. He still doesn't even need KOH and arguably ACoC to win.
In regards to EoS, people seem to be confused. Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban are not Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Gaban was stated to be a Sanji parallel, but Rayleigh is not Zoro's parallel. Zoro's parallel is Ryuuma - Rayleigh is Zoro's benchmark. But Roger is also Zoro's benchmark, as Zoro will be the greatest swordsman to have ever lived. There's a reason why Sanji was instantly stated to be a Gaban parallel, but not once has Zoro ever been associated with Rayleigh nor anyone bar Ryuuma in that same manner. Sanji needed a benchmark to hit top-tier EoS and Gaban finally gives him that, but Zoro has a million top-tier benchmarks and his floor (Ryuuma, Roger, Venus) remains higher than Sanji's (Gaban).
The only thing that has changed is that Sanji is now certain to be Admiral level EoS. That doesn't mean that Zoro nor even Luffy need to be anywhere near Sanji's level - Luffy has no ceiling and Zoro's only ceiling is Luffy. Sanji being Gaban's parallel whilst Zoro isn't a Rayleigh parallel is proof that the SHs and RPs share a different dynamic. Zoro doesn't exist within Roger's crew, and his minimum benchmark within that crew includes the captain.
In regards to EoS, people seem to be confused. Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban are not Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Gaban was stated to be a Sanji parallel, but Rayleigh is not Zoro's parallel. Zoro's parallel is Ryuuma - Rayleigh is Zoro's benchmark. But Roger is also Zoro's benchmark, as Zoro will be the greatest swordsman to have ever lived. There's a reason why Sanji was instantly stated to be a Gaban parallel, but not once has Zoro ever been associated with Rayleigh nor anyone bar Ryuuma in that same manner. Sanji needed a benchmark to hit top-tier EoS and Gaban finally gives him that, but Zoro has a million top-tier benchmarks and his floor (Ryuuma, Roger, Venus) remains higher than Sanji's (Gaban).
The only thing that has changed is that Sanji is now certain to be Admiral level EoS. That doesn't mean that Zoro nor even Luffy need to be anywhere near Sanji's level - Luffy has no ceiling and Zoro's only ceiling is Luffy. Sanji being Gaban's parallel whilst Zoro isn't a Rayleigh parallel is proof that the SHs and RPs share a different dynamic. Zoro doesn't exist within Roger's crew, and his minimum benchmark within that crew includes the captain.
