I mean every thread used to devolve into Zoro vs Sanji and Sanji slander. If you count the amount of pages wasted and dedicated to trashing Sanji they easily dwarf the BB debacle.
Zoro remains significantly stronger than Sanji, nothing's magically changed there. He still doesn't even need KOH and arguably ACoC to win.
In regards to EoS, people seem to be confused. Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban are not Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Gaban was stated to be a Sanji parallel, but Rayleigh is not Zoro's parallel. Zoro's parallel is Ryuuma - Rayleigh is Zoro's benchmark. But Roger is also Zoro's benchmark, as Zoro will be the greatest swordsman to have ever lived. There's a reason why Sanji was instantly stated to be a Gaban parallel, but not once has Zoro ever been associated with Rayleigh nor anyone bar Ryuuma in that same manner. Sanji needed a benchmark to hit top-tier EoS and Gaban finally gives him that, but Zoro has a million top-tier benchmarks and his floor (Ryuuma, Roger, Venus) remains higher than Sanji's (Gaban).
The only thing that has changed is that Sanji is now certain to be Admiral level EoS. That doesn't mean that Zoro nor even Luffy need to be anywhere near Sanji's level - Luffy has no ceiling and Zoro's only ceiling is Luffy. Sanji being Gaban's parallel whilst Zoro isn't a Rayleigh parallel is proof that the SHs and RPs share a different dynamic. Zoro doesn't exist within Roger's crew, and his minimum benchmark within that crew includes the captain.
Imagine trying to convince yourself that the Dark King and King of Hell aren't parallels. Holy shit the Zorotard agenda is so cooked that they're actually divorcing Rayleigh after riding his agenda for literal years. You can't make this up even if you tried.
Gaban doesn’t even feel real sometimes… like if there’s any conspiracy that Oda pays attention to the community when writing the story then Gaban is probably the best proof there’s been in years
- Considered a legend
- Grouped with Roger and Rayleigh as one of the 3 strongest that far surpass the rest of the crew
- Instantly compared to Sanji and calls himself “the Minister of Love” which leaves 0 room for doubt that he’s meant to be a Sanji parallel
- Stated to rival/be equal to Rayleigh multiple times
If anything, the Luffy agenda only got stronger this chap
No talk of Roger = Ray = Gaban this time around. Oda knows the captain operates on a different level than his wings
Imagine trying to convince yourself that the Dark King and King of Hell aren't parallels. Holy shit the Zorotard agenda is so cooked that they're actually divorcing Rayleigh after riding his agenda for literal years. You can't make this up even if you tried.
You're confused. Rayleigh still exists as a benchmark for Zoro, he's simply not a direct parallel.
Sharing similarities doesn't make you a direct parallel.
Parallels are made in-canon - Roger is Luffy's parallel because countless characters have said hey, you remind me of Roger. Sanji is Gaban's parallel because characters have said hey, you remind me of Sanji. Zoro is Ryuuma's parallel because characters have said hey, you remind me of Ryuuma.
No one has ever said Zoro reminds them of Rayleigh - he is not a direct Rayleigh parallel. But you can share similarities with characters such that they become benchmarks or you could even call it an indirect parallel. Zoro has plenty:
Direct parallel: Ryuuma
Indirect parallels: Oden, Mihawk, Rayleigh, Roger, Whitebeard, Shimotsuki Ushimaru.
This is common sense. Take Luffy:
Direct parallel: Roger, Joyboy, Nika
Indirect parallels: Shanks, Ryuuma, Oden
Or Sabo:
Direct parallel: Ace
Indirect parallel: Oden
None of your headcanon changes this. I'll change my mind if you can provide a single manga panel where Zoro reminds someone of Rayleigh, I'll wait. Until then, hush.
You're confused. Rayleigh still exists as a benchmark for Zoro, he's simply not a direct parallel.
Sharing similarities doesn't make you a direct parallel.
Parallels are made in-canon - Roger is Luffy's parallel because countless characters have said hey, you remind me of Roger. Sanji is Gaban's parallel because characters have said hey, you remind me of Sanji. Zoro is Ryuuma's parallel because characters have said hey, you remind me of Ryuuma.
No one has ever said Zoro reminds them of Rayleigh - he is not a direct Rayleigh parallel. But you can share similarities with characters such that they become benchmarks or you could even call it an indirect parallel. Zoro has plenty:
Direct parallel: Ryuuma
Indirect parallels: Oden, Mihawk, Rayleigh, Roger, Whitebeard, Shimotsuki Ushimaru.
This is common sense. Take Luffy:
Direct parallel: Roger, Joyboy, Nika
Indirect parallels: Shanks, Ryuuma, Oden
Or Sabo:
Direct parallel: Ace
Indirect parallel: Oden
None of your headcanon changes this. I'll change my mind if you can provide a single manga panel where Zoro reminds someone of Rayleigh, I'll wait. Until then, hush.
Forgot about that, very nice to see Sanji being compared to a real top tier, when most characters are compared to nothing or had been.. like sanji OLDER is a top tier.. imagine what young sanji can be
Zoro remains significantly stronger than Sanji, nothing's magically changed there. He still doesn't even need KOH and arguably ACoC to win.
In regards to EoS, people seem to be confused. Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban are not Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Gaban was stated to be a Sanji parallel, but Rayleigh is not Zoro's parallel. Zoro's parallel is Ryuuma - Rayleigh is Zoro's benchmark. But Roger is also Zoro's benchmark, as Zoro will be the greatest swordsman to have ever lived. There's a reason why Sanji was instantly stated to be a Gaban parallel, but not once has Zoro ever been associated with Rayleigh nor anyone bar Ryuuma in that same manner. Sanji needed a benchmark to hit top-tier EoS and Gaban finally gives him that, but Zoro has a million top-tier benchmarks and his floor (Ryuuma, Roger, Venus) remains higher than Sanji's (Gaban).
The only thing that has changed is that Sanji is now certain to be Admiral level EoS. That doesn't mean that Zoro nor even Luffy need to be anywhere near Sanji's level - Luffy has no ceiling and Zoro's only ceiling is Luffy. Sanji being Gaban's parallel whilst Zoro isn't a Rayleigh parallel is proof that the SHs and RPs share a different dynamic. Zoro doesn't exist within Roger's crew, and his minimum benchmark within that crew includes the captain.
Forgot about that, very nice to see Sanji being compared to a real top tier, when most characters are compared to nothing or had been.. like sanji OLDER is a top tier.. imagine what young sanji can be
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