Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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If anything we should blame the most evil woman in the world aka Robin starting with the wings stuff. Completely ignoring the mighty Jinbe or future nakamas aka Yamato
 

Bogard

You can't win
Oda not even hiding the Zoro vs Sanji thing in doing the exact same thing with their parallel(Rayleigh viewed as 2nd strongest, but Gaban denying it) :risiflip:

As for the Oden debate, I don't think he is even factored in the Roger Pirates power hierarchy
- He was a borrowed member in the crew for a year
- Even Akainu only remembered him as a Whitebeard commander

Besides, in the Roger vs Whitebeard pirates, although it was just a battle of theft, the ones who actually wanted to challenge him before Roger came in were Rayleigh and Gaban, so after Roger and Whitebeard clashed, they were the only ones who could have clashed with Oden, meaning they should be relative anyway
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Bro marco was an apprentice at that time
We dont know who was the first division commander
It seems you don’t remember the manga. Marco was literally the first ever first division commander. Oden was the first ever second division commander. Lol

Tbh the Oden YC2 thing is consistent with Kaido’s portrayal as a Hanafuda rival.

Kaido’s rival lost to YC2 Ace aka Oden’s replacement. Meanwhile Kaido got PTSD from YC2 Oden.

Consistency across the board @Elder Lee Hung
I’ve been fucking telling yall Kaido is a YC2 victim lmfao. His rival was killed by Ace and he himself was killed by Oden.
 
When giants said that Ray/Roger/Gaban were many times stronger than other team members it should have already made it clear that Oden is not considered in those conv but some people is too deep into agenda.

It's okay to think that Ray/Gaban is stronger than him but he is clearly more remembered as WB's subordinate and will not overshadow Roger/Ray/Gaban's 30 years dynamic as RP pirates for 1 year anyway.
 
It seems you don’t remember the manga. Marco was literally the first ever first division commander. Oden was the first ever second division commander. Lol
Marco is the first div cmmander known
He was an apprentice in oden s days which means someone else was 1st commander
Doesnt matter anyways
Oden was his little brother while rest sons
 
lmao, Sanji blitzes King. :kobeha:
Simpji needed Ifrit jambe for Queen, Zoro wouldn't need Asura for Queen, oh wait he didn't need it for King lol, that's how big of a Gap there is between them.

Full Power Ifrit couldn't hurt G5 Goffy lol.
Imagine ADVCOC Asura attacking Goffys back, and doing nothing.
Simpji can't hurt King.
 
Low and Sanji together wouldn't stand chance against King. None of them possess the tools to deal with him lets get back to reality
Law’s df and Sanji’s raid suit sure seem like more favorable matchups vs King than Zoro. Greenfraud had to use his df even though King was seriously injured at the time. Greenfrauds sword skills didn’t do the job.
 
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