Questions & Mysteries Ginny secretly Won!? Luffy is Kuma real son, time line fits!?

what are the chance kuma is luffy real father considering timeline pointed out!?


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#22
Okay what about Young Garp looking like luffy ? What do you have to say and Luffy doesn’t have buccaneer blood .
i already mention garp is luffy grandpa in the first top post.

garp has shown to have monster strength compared to normal human, so quarter of the giant blood. imo

i think luffy has some of there blood to. since it hinted from clapp, some of his family members don't grow bigger. where some do.


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What in the cope is this? :kaidowhat:

This flashback was meant to show Dragon's connection to Luffy as a father since he was looking at the direction where Luffy was born and living before.
it not cope, staring at someone and saying meaning less words with no actions to back him up. does not prove him the real father. kuma been there 100% more to luffy then dragon.

like here more subtle hint on it by oda.



oh dragon even has the shadow eyes, so he knows the truth. this after kuma found out about luffy. oh jee beside bonney black mail. now kuma silent anger at dragon. even sabo noticed it. and look at dragon trying to accuse sabo of murdering the king... when dragon should know better.





who was the traitor for saturn.
 
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#24
You guys can't be seriously considering this possibility...
you are gonna believe oda gonna make luffy resemble some deadbeat who don't even look like him, and just talk words with no action.

meanwhile kuma revealed to look like luffy, both go out there way to save people, prob influence buccaneer bloodline of being good.

where has dragon saved luffy. beside talk like a stiff statue, while kuma went and saved so many people on his own.

the parallels between luffy and kuma self sacrifice/good will/fighting to defend the weak. even if have to solo it.


lmao people think dragon because he said this.



he admitting to kuma, that kuma can kill him because kuma realize luffy is his child not dragon, so dragon has reason to fear kuma attacking him for hiding the truth. also shadow line over dragon eyes.. other lie/truth

unless you think dragon think kinda/saint kuma would attack him for having a kid. wich make dragon a clown for doubting his friend. but he tried to doubt sabo anyways so clown still.

It dragon admission and hint to kuma.


luffy felt chills... kuma having malice thought that dragon hid luffy from him. and also upset at ginny.

first time seen kuma actually angry.
 
#28

i think this is cover up. look at the shadow over garp eyes.

we seen this more then once, with shadow eye expression on other characters.

when something bad happens/unpleasant.

It's probably just Garp expressing disappointment over his son becoming a revolutionary instead of remaining a marine.
 
#29
It's probably just Garp expressing disappointment over his son becoming a revolutionary instead of remaining a marine.
i did notice that, but there is other translation where it shows garp says this.



"child of my child" i have seen, never mention male/female.

leaving it open to possible ginny.



very important fact is that Garp or someone has never said that Dragon is his son in the manga.
In the Japanese chapter 439 released about 10 years ago,, Garp refered to Luffy as “a child of my child.”
from post mention in link below

post about garp stating luffy is child of his child


I do not know what happen in god vally, but someone had to defend kuma and ginny. and my guess is garp, who protected them when he found ginny alive, along with kuma who he prob adopted into his family.

there so many gaps oda not shown.

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It's probably just Garp expressing disappointment over his son becoming a revolutionary instead of remaining a marine.

actually wait. i didn't check garp age in god vally or clapp.

40 years old, i am checking god vally.

so could been clapp was garp son, (deceased) clapp inherited more of buccaneer bloodline. clap looks to be his 20's with his wife when they had kuma....

kuma became revolutionary army. but the translation in some still points to garp saying child of my child.






explains why garp is more harsher on luffy, after his son was taken as a slave maybe. I think garp and dragon had connection/info work. because dragon use to be a marine.

hmm either ginny/or possible clapp, if clapp was in his early 20 when he had kuma. fit for garp the being grand father, grandpa timeline.
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revote you guys, the poll did not displayed the voters so had to reset.
 
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#31
nice read but no lol
ty al lol.

i still think there chance since garp might be clapp father, meaning kuma is garp grandson to beside luffy.

since garp stated, child of my child meaning he had a son, his son child who had luffy

so if dragon was garp son, he say son of my child. not child of my child.


 
#33

garp does have curly hair, when older, clapp fit timeline of garp son, who also had kuma.

for garp statement "the child of my child"
so clapp-kuma-luffy



the buccuneers with more blood in the body/giants, there face are more wider buffed, but still carry trait from there parents.
 

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#34

garp does have curly hair, when older, clapp fit timeline of garp son, who also had kuma.

for garp statement "the child of my child"
so clapp-kuma-luffy



the buccuneers with more blood in the body/giants, there face are more wider buffed, but still carry trait from there parents.

I think these are a bunch of red herrings you are confusing. But who knows, maybe Oda will surprise us otherwise.
 
#35

I think these are a bunch of red herrings you are confusing. But who knows, maybe Oda will surprise us otherwise.
oda gave up on dragon being a dad.

it was kuma who oda focused and showed us, how kuma went out of his way for luffy and told luffy good bye before his mind got wiped. that a message from a father.

will see.
 
#36
Maybe Oda had used similar facial expressions for Luffy and Kuma because Kuma wanted to be like Nika. But Luffy does not share the physical build of Buccaneers. Kuma is nearly 23 feet tall, while Luffy is 5'9. Clapp was big too. He dwarfed the humans who sat next to him.

There are instances of Bonney using Distorted Future that show the Buccaneer build, i.e., if she was Kuma's biological daughter.
 
#38
Maybe Oda had used similar facial expressions for Luffy and Kuma because Kuma wanted to be like Nika. But Luffy does not share the physical build of Buccaneers. Kuma is nearly 23 feet tall, while Luffy is 5'9. Clapp was big too. He dwarfed the humans who sat next to him.

There are instances of Bonney using Distorted Future that show the Buccaneer build, i.e., if she was Kuma's biological daughter.
luffy has kuma nose/eyes, and also traits of his grandfather. that is genetic trait imo. not similar expression.


don't forgot, kuma mother was normal, and kuma father was more giant because of his blood. and they still had kuma.

meaning not everyone in his family will be big, only few will show more in there blood as example kuma and clapp.

even garp has similar build as buccaneers but not giant like kuma, hinting at the bloodline. why garp is so strong.

I think the attacks are also similar.




kuma is called pad cannon, then there is garp who attack are cannon throw.


but the one between luffy gomu and pad canon are two similar coincidence piled on the other clue mention.
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fix that for you lol
 
#39
its been stated by multiple characters that luffy is dragons son, why would dragon even pretend that luffy is his son when that information alone would put luffy in the scope of the WG?
why would dragon keep the charade of being luffy father even when he is literally by himself in the balcony of the revs base?
 
#40
its been stated by multiple characters that luffy is dragons son, why would dragon even pretend that luffy is his son when that information alone would put luffy in the scope of the WG?
why would dragon keep the charade of being luffy father even when he is literally by himself in the balcony of the revs base?
garp is the one who spread the misinformation around. and when he did oda drew lines over his eyes, hinting something not true. lines over eyes expression is something bad.

dragon knew about the weapons, and most likely nika prophecy, dragon would need nika to become reality imo. Since nika looks to show up in buccaneer bloodline only.

even though clapp was buccaneer, kuma when he grew older was 10 time bigger then clapp. showing some family stay small/big/bigger in growth. garp strength is possible due to half blood giant of buccaneers.





genetic trait are there for the eyes/nose and even hair/super strength , we did not see dragon with any love interest for the timeline for luffy to be born, instead oda showed us only ginny and kuma having romantic interest in each other.

also if nika was to awaken, it means luffy need to die/awaken if dragon aware of how the df works.


kuma was important to dragon, because of his bloodline, and the same for luffy. from dragon actions and never showing up. luffy just a tool to win the war.


oda not having kuma behave as a father to someone else kid, who treated him like trash.
 
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