Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

Welll....
Kind of is though...

He didnt have the clout he has with HxH so he was pushed around by his editors and he was sick.

 

[RyoQ]

Btw @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack ,etc now that we know that Oda hates it when people predict his story and actively changes the outcome when they do, maybe the Raid failing and ZKK werent such a meme after all.

Chad move would be Morj saying the Raid was supposed to fail but Oda changed his mind

 

[soupongo]

Btw @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack ,etc now that we know that Oda hates it when people predict his story and actively changes the outcome when they do, maybe the Raid failing and ZKK werent such a meme after all.

But OP remains pretty predictable. Everyone was predicting Gaban would be the dude in the sillohute,shanks twin,gunko redemption

 

[Paragorn]

Btw @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack ,etc now that we know that Oda hates it when people predict his story and actively changes the outcome when they do, maybe the Raid failing and ZKK werent such a meme after all.

ZKK was too out of Oda's writing style to happen.

 

[Dark-Abel]

Kidd and Law loosing was a mistake. Post-Wano was the perfect opportunit to develop Kidd and Law's grown, it would give more dynamic to the series.

They are irrelevant for the end game, it's time to focus on the real important characters like: Imu, Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk and Blackbeard

 

[soupongo]

He didnt have the clout he has with HxH so he was pushed around by his editors and he was sick.

Getting used to editors is just part of being a mangaka tbh, though I'm glad Togashi doesn't listen to them as much anymore

 

[ako]

The whole point of Kid and Law getting destroyed like that was that only a very few pirates make it to the very top. You have 3 ambitious young pirates with Luffy,Kid and Law and only one of them will survive and climb to the top.

 

[Fujishiro]

I actually don't think ZKK was a bad idea story wise. Zoro living up to Ryuma's legend by killing a mythical dragon in front of the flower capital? Better than big punch.
But in a series like One Piece this was NEVER going to happen. Luffy has to finish the arc villain, it is what is.

Couldve been a thriller bark situation where they win but Kaido gets back up first and is almost dead and tries to kill Luffy and Zoro saves him.

As for the raid failing it wouldve been great they fail the raid, retreat into mainland Wano and take the fight there. People of Wano witness the fight instead of being oblivious to it,etc.

 

[Paragorn]

They are irrelevant for the end game, i

Why they're irrelevant?

How can we say that the most promising pirates of new gen who shared an 3b bounty with the MC are irrelevant?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Btw @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack ,etc now that we know that Oda hates it when people predict his story and actively changes the outcome when they do, maybe the Raid failing and ZKK werent such a meme after all.

Lmao Zoro isn't killing an Emperor especially before Luffy does

 

[ZenZu]

Btw @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack ,etc now that we know that Oda hates it when people predict his story and actively changes the outcome when they do, maybe the Raid failing and ZKK werent such a meme after all.

ZKK was never gonna happen dude, the way post skip trajectory was and One Piece in general is. Oda was never gonna have Luffy's biggest obstacle and by far his most important opponent at a pivotal point of the story, fed to Zoro. Oda would literally be bleeding through every pore of his body just drawing that. You could kidnap Oda and use that as a torture tool.

I always said this back then, ZKK is what's best for the story but it's not happening, not a shot in hell, we are in the Luffy show. Anything that threatens Luffy or even takes 5% of his shine, gets shot down.

 

[Fujishiro]

Lmao Zoro isn't killing an Emperor especially before Luffy does

Could just defeat him, BB swoops in or someone else finishes the job.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Couldve been a thriller bark situation where they win but Kaido gets back up first and is almost dead and tries to kill Luffy and Zoro saves him.

Yeah I think this would have been fine, Luffy would have done majority of the work but Zoro would still have gotten his Ryuma moment by saving his captain and Wano.
But even that, that would have been too much for current Oda apparently.

 

[Dark-Abel]

I actually don't think ZKK was a bad idea story wise. Zoro living up to Ryuma's legend by killing a mythical dragon in front of the flower capital? Better than big punch.
But in a series like One Piece this was NEVER going to happen. Luffy has to finish the arc villain, it is what is.

If Blackbeard goes to Wano and recruits Kaido and Big Mom, we could get Zoro vs Kaido and Big Mom vs Sanji

 

[soupongo]

Lmao Zoro isn't killing an Emperor especially before Luffy does

Neither of them will kill an emperor, the fish is Shiryus casualty

 

[Fujishiro]

ZKK was never gonna happen dude, the way post skip trajectory was and One Piece in general is. Oda was never gonna have Luffy's biggest obstacle and by far his most important opponent at a pivotal point of the story, fed to Zoro. Oda would literally be bleeding through every pore of his body just drawing that. You could kidnap Oda and use that as a torture tool.

I always said this back then, ZKK is what's best for the story but it's not happening, not a shot in hell, we are in the Luffy show. Anything that threatens Luffy or even takes 5% of his shine, gets shot down.

Unfortunate I guess.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Could just defeat him, BB swoops in or someone else finishes the job.

Still that gives him a reputation far better than what Luffy has under his belt. Which isn't good at all for Luffy.

 

[RyoQ]

ZKK was too out of Oda's writing style to happen.

Oda wouldn't let Law beat Doffy

He isn't letting Zoro beat Kaido

 

[Dark-Abel]

Why they're irrelevant?

How can we say that the most promising pirates of new gen who shared an 3b bounty with the MC are irrelevant?

Because Oda decided they are

 

[Ven437]

Garp after he was done fighting an admiral woth killing intent, took a janitor backstab, multiple elite fodder

Gaban after Gunko shot his ass with 3 hakiless arrows

Gunko masterclass AP that’s how you deal with old legends quick and efficient