Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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The whole point of Kid and Law getting destroyed like that was that only a very few pirates make it to the very top. You have 3 ambitious young pirates with Luffy,Kid and Law and only one of them will survive and climb to the top.
 

Fujishiro

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I actually don't think ZKK was a bad idea story wise. Zoro living up to Ryuma's legend by killing a mythical dragon in front of the flower capital? Better than big punch.
But in a series like One Piece this was NEVER going to happen. Luffy has to finish the arc villain, it is what is.
Couldve been a thriller bark situation where they win but Kaido gets back up first and is almost dead and tries to kill Luffy and Zoro saves him.

As for the raid failing it wouldve been great they fail the raid, retreat into mainland Wano and take the fight there. People of Wano witness the fight instead of being oblivious to it,etc.
 

ZenZu

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Btw @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack ,etc now that we know that Oda hates it when people predict his story and actively changes the outcome when they do, maybe the Raid failing and ZKK werent such a meme after all.
ZKK was never gonna happen dude, the way post skip trajectory was and One Piece in general is. Oda was never gonna have Luffy's biggest obstacle and by far his most important opponent at a pivotal point of the story, fed to Zoro. Oda would literally be bleeding through every pore of his body just drawing that. You could kidnap Oda and use that as a torture tool.

I always said this back then, ZKK is what's best for the story but it's not happening, not a shot in hell, we are in the Luffy show. Anything that threatens Luffy or even takes 5% of his shine, gets shot down.
 
Couldve been a thriller bark situation where they win but Kaido gets back up first and is almost dead and tries to kill Luffy and Zoro saves him.
Yeah I think this would have been fine, Luffy would have done majority of the work but Zoro would still have gotten his Ryuma moment by saving his captain and Wano.
But even that, that would have been too much for current Oda apparently.
 
I actually don't think ZKK was a bad idea story wise. Zoro living up to Ryuma's legend by killing a mythical dragon in front of the flower capital? Better than big punch.
But in a series like One Piece this was NEVER going to happen. Luffy has to finish the arc villain, it is what is.
If Blackbeard goes to Wano and recruits Kaido and Big Mom, we could get Zoro vs Kaido and Big Mom vs Sanji
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
ZKK was never gonna happen dude, the way post skip trajectory was and One Piece in general is. Oda was never gonna have Luffy's biggest obstacle and by far his most important opponent at a pivotal point of the story, fed to Zoro. Oda would literally be bleeding through every pore of his body just drawing that. You could kidnap Oda and use that as a torture tool.

I always said this back then, ZKK is what's best for the story but it's not happening, not a shot in hell, we are in the Luffy show. Anything that threatens Luffy or even takes 5% of his shine, gets shot down.
Unfortunate I guess.
 
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