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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
What do you mean?
They were literally just talking to the guy who knows how to stop their regen. You said "Them having to figure how to do it is part of what makes the situation challenging"

Why would they have to figure anything out? They should know the exact answer given they were just speaking with the guy who knows. If Zoro and Sanji went off to confront these characters without the answer it's another one of Oda's brain dead moments.
 
Luffy’s claims of “using everything he has” or “going all out” are exaggerated…

Gaban says you need to pay attention because that’s all you need to damage immortals… Pay attention when using CoC… There is no other power or extra level needed to damage them
Pay attention to how you use it. Obviously what Luffy learned from Kaido ain’t it and needs to figure out a new way
 
Luffy’s claims of “using everything he has” or “going all out” are exaggerated…

Gaban says you need to pay attention because that’s all you need to damage immortals… Pay attention when using CoC… There is no other power or extra level needed to damage them
That line is get use out of context so much lol.
 
Sanji physically can’t do it. He doesn’t have CoC. So can’t the giants who are going with them… they can stall, remember, that’s a thing people can do… stalling

Zoro actually can… He has the one ability Gaban has said works… Why didn’t he wait for Gaban to tell him what to do?… One sentence… why didn’t he wait for Gaban to say “You need level 3 CoC” or whatever

Gaban literally just said only CoC users can damage the immortals and one of the CoC users left without hearing Gaban actually explain what you have to do… this is your understand of what just happened?
Gaban is on the floor, critically injured, the whole crew is held hostage and Imu along with the demonized Giants are wreaking havoc. You expect him to teach a haki class in those circumstances? The explanation is likely not as straightforward as "aim for the heart" or whatever, it's likely abstract and requires to try it in combat to get the gist of it, just like ACoA at Udon.
 
Pay attention to how you use it. Obviously what Luffy learned from Kaido ain’t it and needs to figure out a new way
IMO it was always a given that you could get better at using CoC .
All haki have different level and subs sets and you can keep on getting better at them .
I did not want it to be that simple be it is what it is cause Gaban showing better CoO than luffy for eg .
Showing luffy can still get better CoO and shanks show he can still get better FS or even kill FS.
 
There is no haki training required… Gaban doesn’t say you need to “more CoC” or some new CoC ability to damage… He just says you have to pay attention to what you’re doing and you’ll do it… you just need to focus on Damaging the immortals and you’ll do so
He literally says he has to pay attention to how he uses CoC. Not to what he's doing, or to whether he's actually using it. He puts the emphasis on the how, meaning there was something wrong with how he was using it.
 
They were literally just talking to the guy who knows how to stop their regen. You said "Them having to figure how to do it is part of what makes the situation challenging"

Why would they have to figure anything out? They should know the exact answer given they were just speaking with the guy who knows. If Zoro and Sanji went off to confront these characters without the answer it's another one of Oda's brain dead moments.
There’s a transition moment so they could’ve been told something offscreen we’re not privy to yet
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
In a chapter where Gaban basically confirms Sanji doesn't have CoC, here Sanji boys celebrating that "it's confirmed Sanji will unlock CoC this arc" :ihaha:

Meanwhile your boy is still insecure with Jinbe's fame :risitameh:
Give it up bro. Sanji's CoC is confirmed. It's time to leech. Shiryu is really gonna fight someone equal to EOS Sanji, we're talking about AdCoC + FS + black flames etc.....WOW
 
Sanji fans convinced themselves Sanji is tiers above Jinbe while the sad boy himself is still pretty insecure about it

Sanji fans wanking Gaban for months while the grandpa himself separating Luffy and Zoro in different tier above the rest of the crew

Pretty sad situation :josad:
 
Give it up bro. Sanji's CoC is confirmed. It's time to leech. Shiryu is really gonna fight someone equal to EOS Sanji, we're talking about AdCoC + FS + black flames etc.....WOW
Topi-kun needs to get with the times. Trolling Sanji fans is lame af now (has been since the Wings statement tbh), trolling Zboys is the new meta
 
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