Powers & Abilities Adv CoC is a requirement for Admiral rank

Which is it?

  • Admirals have CoC

  • Admirals have no CoC <--- 2 digit IQ people vote here


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Shouldn't even be a debate that Admirals have COC.

It's like saying Mihawk doesn't have COC.

But then we have Jimbe and Law who have shown resolve but doesn't have COC. Or Perhaps it's just not awakened yet.

All I can say is Oda's logic is one of a kind.

Haki system isn't even complex.
 
He challenged his brother-in-arms to a duel for the right to decide the future of the Marines.
He defied the WG as a whole and went AWOL, looking for the One Piece treasure.
He joined the worst pirate crew in recent history and is planning to betray them from within.
He even defied, fought with, and chose to kidnap his own mentor--all to uphold his own ideology.
If that's not a man who does what he wants on his own terms, then IDK why 99% of this series' characters should get CoC.
Aokiji's motivations aren't clear on any of these.

We don't know his motivation or goals. We don't know whether he's truly an ally to BB or has his own objectives.

What we do know is that young Aokiji was more expressive and energetic, an all around passionate individual. That doesn't describe current Aokiji, who looks like a man without a country these days and overall quite a sad, solitary figure.

I don't think Aokiji is doing what he wants on his own terms at all, I think he's doing the best he can with his situation.
 
Yes, Buggy is clearly wrong and misinformed. First of all, Roger‘s reputation was so high because of his strength. He was already one of the strongest pirates and travelled across the globe. His infamy made people care about the One Piece — it was Roger’s treasure, and a legend like Roger hyped it up so millions of people wanted to find it for themselves.

In the modern era, finding the One Piece is now synonymous to becoming PK since it has been decades and nobody even came close to replicating the feat. It’s also the era filled with competition so if you find it then that would mean that you pulled ahead of the curve. Which is what we are seeing, you literally need to get the poneglyphs from yonko level fighters.

So yeah, Buggy’s words don’t carry weight at all. Apart from the aforementioned reasons, he’s also a gag character with the greatest luck in the series. Despite that, he himself needs powerful allies to be able to compete. You can’t think of becoming PK without even having the capacity to scrap with top-tiers. That is the bare minimum, you need a lot more than that in reality.

No dude, you have it wrong. Buggy words has more weight as he was literally part of the crew.

You do need to be strong. But as you said, you need to find the treasure, not fight everyone. Even Roger didn't fight Big Mom for the copy, nor he had to defeat Sengoku, he didnt even fight Shiki or defeated Whitebeard.

Teach didn't have to fight Kaido or Big Mom, he just fought Law lol. Its a race, you can do it in the easy way, or in the hard way.
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And Rogers best feat was finding the last island, which gave him the title of Pirate King, not because his power only.
 
Re: Ryokugyu, I'd like to point out something about him.

His Justice is apparently called "Determined Justice" (死ぬ気の正義, Shinuki no Seigi?, VIZ: "Justice if it kills me") as per SBS 106.

I also recall that in SBS 76, one person asked if Fuji and Ryo were opposed to the WG in some way because of their animal motifs, and Oda didn't outright deny or confirm it.

So I would not be surprised if Ryokugyu's subservient behaviour is an act, or if, at the very least, he has some strong dream or ideal that persists regardless of his sycophantic behaviour.

Re: Kizaru, I don't know if it qualifies him fir Conk, but at least he is certainly a good leader and favoured by his soldiers.


Personally I feel like he is the Bertholdt Hoover of OP despite being more like Zeke in personality.

Kizaru's general theme is that he blinds himself to the evils of the WG, and I would not be surprised if there was a reason for that beyond his monthly paycheques like a misguided belief in some greater good.

And just like Bertholdt became an absolute threat when he became more decisive, I think Kizaru could also end up transforming into something similar, depending on what Oda does with him.

So I would not be surprised if it turns out that he does have Conk, but only to a weak degree, and is able to master it once he undergoes some character development and decides what to truly fight for.

So yeah, let's see how it goes.
 
Re: Ryokugyu, I'd like to point out something about him.

His Justice is apparently called "Determined Justice" (死ぬ気の正義, Shinuki no Seigi?, VIZ: "Justice if it kills me") as per SBS 106.

I also recall that in SBS 76, one person asked if Fuji and Ryo were opposed to the WG in some way because of their animal motifs, and Oda didn't outright deny or confirm it.

So I would not be surprised if Ryokugyu's subservient behaviour is an act, or if, at the very least, he has some strong dream or ideal that persists regardless of his sycophantic behaviour.

Re: Kizaru, I don't know if it qualifies him fir Conk, but at least he is certainly a good leader and favoured by his soldiers.


Personally I feel like he is the Bertholdt Hoover of OP despite being more like Zeke in personality.

Kizaru's general theme is that he blinds himself to the evils of the WG, and I would not be surprised if there was a reason for that beyond his monthly paycheques like a misguided belief in some greater good.

And just like Bertholdt became an absolute threat when he became more decisive, I think Kizaru could also end up transforming into something similar, depending on what Oda does with him.

So I would not be surprised if it turns out that he does have Conk, but only to a weak degree, and is able to master it once he undergoes some character development and decides what to truly fight for.

So yeah, let's see how it goes.
Totally.
I went around saying the same.

The SBS Is this one: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=ht...bp&s=fe49cf27868e1985251c0e145d0f222f4c2a786c

In which Oda basically confirmed Ryo has an hidden agenda.
 
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