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What u mean he isn't sanji enemy of the arc ? Holy knights are deadass the main villain of the arc and u think sanji isn't fighting sommer when both believe in love ?

dory and brogy are the king of elbaf and Loki and his brothers are the prince are of elbaf
oda made them king so the prince can fight them for king title of the nation.

It doesnt matter if they're still in the underworld
i dont think zoro will touch imu even tho luffy is still in the underworld
in the one piece world time luffy and the rest are gonna come after 10 minutes
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Dory And Brogy are the more hyped subordinates of Imu so they’ll fight Zoro Abe Sanji.
 
Ngl, the Itachi was retconned to be stronger in part 2 take never made sense to me

Since part 1, we knew that beating Itachi was Sasuke's goal, unless you think that Sasuke wasn't supposed to be important in part 1 or something. The Orochimaru stuff was mentioned in part 1 and even if you think about it

In Shippuden:
He was revealed to be severely ill
His MS could lead to blindness, there was no way for him to actually get the last stage of sharingan
He wasn't wiping out clans to test his strength
He didn't even beat any of the notable Uchiha in an actual fight: Shisui/Fugaku
He collected a special blade to deal with Orochimaru

So when did the Jiraiya retcon even happen? Was Kishi retconning the story by making even Pain saying he got lucky Jiraiya couldn't figure out his secret?
It was never a retcon.

Orochimaru strongest sannin was scared of him, Kishi has planned good itachi from the start.
Jiraya was his allied.
 
It was never a retcon.

Orochimaru strongest sannin was scared of him, Kishi has planned good itachi from the start.
Jiraya was his allied.
no, they were filling to fight Konoha Shinobi at that point, including Kurenai, Asuma and Kakashi. Plus, Kisame himself confirmed that Jiraiya was above Itachi
 

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o, they were filling to fight Konoha Shinobi at that point, including Kurenai, Asuma and Kakashi.
No, Itachi was there to just make a ruckus to remind Danzo that he is still alive so he doesn't mess with Sasuke. He wasn't going to kill any of them. He even warned Kisame to not fight part 1 Kakashi lol.



. Plus, Kisame himself confirmed that Jiraiya was above Itachi
When did that happen?


Kisame stated that Itachi can take him on, but not himself.



And it's abundantly clear that Itachi wasn't going to kidnap Naruto there and used Jiraiya as an excuse, because he was still on Konoha's side.


The strongest Sannin, Lord Orochimaru, was negged by Itachi, and believed that beating Itachi and getting his body was an impossible dream.


Feats, portrayal, they all favour Itachi against Jiraiya.
 
No, Itachi was there to just make a ruckus to remind Danzo that he is still alive so he doesn't mess with Sasuke. He wasn't going to kill any of them. He even warned Kisame to not fight part 1 Kakashi lol.




When did that happen?


Kisame stated that Itachi can take him on, but not himself.



And it's abundantly clear that Itachi wasn't going to kidnap Naruto there and used Jiraiya as an excuse, because he was still on Konoha's side.


The strongest Sannin, Lord Orochimaru, was negged by Itachi, and believed that beating Itachi and getting his body was an impossible dream.


Feats, portrayal, they all favour Itachi against Jiraiya.
He ordered Kisame to kill Kakashi once Kakashi mentioned the Akatsuki

To stay undercover, you have to be willing to even kill your own side, so no, being undercover alone doesn't explain why Itachi admitted Jiraiya was above him.


according to Kisame, they pale in comparison to Jiraiya. This is despite Itachi negging Orochimaru. Why? Simple, because beating an opponent with Genjutsu, doesn't inherently make you stronger. In fact, Itachi needed a special blade to seal Orochimaru away, and even that wasn't enough to get rid of him.

And is Itachis portrayal better? Kakashi had a heart attack in Orochimarus presence, and yet he had no problem fighting Itachi in the next arc.
 
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