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The countries mentioned before have social welfare policies as well. I don't think you can nail down all social welfare as a cause for stagnation
hell America is a welfare state
On the other comment you made yes there are people who have doomer "society is at fault" mentality on the left, but it is just as you have right wingers who base their politics to "own the libs". Like cutting welfare programs don't also hurt poor republicans for example.
hell America is a welfare state
On the other comment you made yes there are people who have doomer "society is at fault" mentality on the left, but it is just as you have right wingers who base their politics to "own the libs". Like cutting welfare programs don't also hurt poor republicans for example.
Not an hour ago you said no innocents were in there because you can just look at a vid and they’ve all got tats. Lmfao
If the prisoners are tossed in and packed like rats then that’s not just le normal every prison has deaths. They are set up to encourage deaths, deaths aren’t prevented, medical care is often not given, etc. and people don’t normally die of just like malnourishment and shit in prison if they’re not being starved. Most of the deaths go unreported and if they are no cause is given: not every prison.
If first no innocents are there and now it’s “yeah but it doesn’t matter” I know that the fact of the matter is you just don’t care as long as the criminals are gone. I can put myself in the shoes of the wrongfully arrested who die in jail. To you they are a sacrifice you’re willing to make. I guess we are just different kinds of people. When I hear that credible reports of denial of food and water and wrongful imprisonments are occurring, I can’t just jerk off over the guy being a hero and say they had to die for the sake of clean streets when the fact is if those two things happen then by definition innocents are being denied due process and human rights.
I guess I can’t provide the smoking gun that will make it matter if it doesn’t actually matter that innocents get arrested and face human rights abuses. To me, the solution is easy; less human rights abuses. To you, you say “YOU HAVE NO HUMAN RIGHTS!” Because you can look at a video and they all have tats, so they must all deserve it.
If the prisoners are tossed in and packed like rats then that’s not just le normal every prison has deaths. They are set up to encourage deaths, deaths aren’t prevented, medical care is often not given, etc. and people don’t normally die of just like malnourishment and shit in prison if they’re not being starved. Most of the deaths go unreported and if they are no cause is given: not every prison.
If first no innocents are there and now it’s “yeah but it doesn’t matter” I know that the fact of the matter is you just don’t care as long as the criminals are gone. I can put myself in the shoes of the wrongfully arrested who die in jail. To you they are a sacrifice you’re willing to make. I guess we are just different kinds of people. When I hear that credible reports of denial of food and water and wrongful imprisonments are occurring, I can’t just jerk off over the guy being a hero and say they had to die for the sake of clean streets when the fact is if those two things happen then by definition innocents are being denied due process and human rights.
I guess I can’t provide the smoking gun that will make it matter if it doesn’t actually matter that innocents get arrested and face human rights abuses. To me, the solution is easy; less human rights abuses. To you, you say “YOU HAVE NO HUMAN RIGHTS!” Because you can look at a video and they all have tats, so they must all deserve it.
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Can we agree that you can have social welfare programs without excessive bureocracy and taxation?
Some places in Europe have like 40% or more income tax. This is ridiculous. Taxation and Bureaucracy make it so the little guys can create their own businesses and compete.
So you either get a job or you end up living of a welfare check. Excessive assistencialism can mean slavery.If goverments don't create programs to incentive people to either seek work or create a business, this is modern slavery in my book. They are forcing people to depend on the govermnent one way or the other.
This is my problem with social democracy: Good old create problems to offer solutions. By using the excuse creating of equality and fighting off poverty, they alianete people from the possibility of fending off for themselves. The tools for this are taxes and bureaucracy.
I remember when i was 18 and i tried to get a license to work. It took me almost an entire year. I remember my father commented it took him 15min back in his day. This was 11 years ago, now it's even worse. Ofc, Brazilian gov loves the poor. They OWN the poor.
Some places in Europe have like 40% or more income tax. This is ridiculous. Taxation and Bureaucracy make it so the little guys can create their own businesses and compete.
So you either get a job or you end up living of a welfare check. Excessive assistencialism can mean slavery.If goverments don't create programs to incentive people to either seek work or create a business, this is modern slavery in my book. They are forcing people to depend on the govermnent one way or the other.
This is my problem with social democracy: Good old create problems to offer solutions. By using the excuse creating of equality and fighting off poverty, they alianete people from the possibility of fending off for themselves. The tools for this are taxes and bureaucracy.
I remember when i was 18 and i tried to get a license to work. It took me almost an entire year. I remember my father commented it took him 15min back in his day. This was 11 years ago, now it's even worse. Ofc, Brazilian gov loves the poor. They OWN the poor.
“Anyone that knows what a gang member looks like in Latin America and that has seen footage of El Salvador prisons knows that there isn't a single civillian in those places. Why? Cause all gang members ink themselves with certain tatoos to display their status within crime.”
The final proof that you are a disingenuous motherfucker lol
The final proof that you are a disingenuous motherfucker lol
So you can’t even read what I’m saying, huh?
Lemme spell it out for you again slowly this time. You start off with “there are no innocents.” Not an hour later you shamelessly switch to “of course there are innocents but it doesn’t matter.” You are a disingenuous person.
I’m not even speaking about if tattoos are good or not. I’m just saying that you contradict yourself as you breathe. Are they all criminals because the vids show tats or are there obviously innocents and they don’t matter? They are two opposite arguments, one is that the government acts with extreme discretion, the other is that they arrest people based on appearance and get it wrong but it doesn’t matter. I’d just like clarification.
Because it sounds like you’re confirming what I’ve always thought, that you don’t really have skin in the authoritarian or not game, you just are in a cult and have to suck off your hero even when it means changing your arguments in a matter of minutes and pretending you didn’t.
Lemme spell it out for you again slowly this time. You start off with “there are no innocents.” Not an hour later you shamelessly switch to “of course there are innocents but it doesn’t matter.” You are a disingenuous person.
I’m not even speaking about if tattoos are good or not. I’m just saying that you contradict yourself as you breathe. Are they all criminals because the vids show tats or are there obviously innocents and they don’t matter? They are two opposite arguments, one is that the government acts with extreme discretion, the other is that they arrest people based on appearance and get it wrong but it doesn’t matter. I’d just like clarification.
Because it sounds like you’re confirming what I’ve always thought, that you don’t really have skin in the authoritarian or not game, you just are in a cult and have to suck off your hero even when it means changing your arguments in a matter of minutes and pretending you didn’t.
Whataboutism and strawmanning again. The estimation is that about 10% of the people that go to jail in America are actually innocents. So, should judges stop giving out sentences cause they can make mistakes? Plz, stop making a fool of yourself. How is it you want to be taken seriously by behaving like this? I think you are actually hysterical. You write with wayyyy too much passion. Try the grounding technique i taught you. You need to touch some grass. Remember: We can only bitch about these things. Bitching never solves anything. Words to live by.
Yes, I would say judges should be more wary to give out the death penalty in states with a History of wrongfully killing innocents
I never expected you to take me seriously. I never took you as a person who wasn’t lying either, bro.
Again, btw: your thing about “ree calm down bro” is a deflection from the fact you are a proven disingenuous fuck lol
I never expected you to take me seriously. I never took you as a person who wasn’t lying either, bro.
Again, btw: your thing about “ree calm down bro” is a deflection from the fact you are a proven disingenuous fuck lol
Anything in excess is bad, but throwing taxes and overall welfare away because it can be exploited is dumb. Capitalism is highly exploitative and I don't see you throwing it away.
a 99% tax on the rich is stupid, doesn't mean I think they should be tax free. You live in a society and reap the benefits of it? You pay it back. It is a simple social contract
a 99% tax on the rich is stupid, doesn't mean I think they should be tax free. You live in a society and reap the benefits of it? You pay it back. It is a simple social contract
I don't believe in different tax quotas for different incomes. It is discriminatory in my book. Also, fuck society. The goverments down here don't do shit and they take away everything from people. Your social welfare works? Great for you guys. But it doesn't for us. We should get rid of it. I don't mind how other nations run their lives, i'm only corncerned about my corner of the world.
Whataboutism is your entire persona isn't it?
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Whataboutism is your entire persona isn't it?
I logged off to take a quick shower. Wtf happened?
Problem is, you need to have a society to begin with. I feel like most people these days just care about themselves. Everyone is so disrespectul and egotistical nowadays. There is a reason corruption is so rampant in third world nations. CULTURE!
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Problem is, you need to have a society to begin with. I feel like most people these days just care about themselves. Everyone is so disrespectul and egotistical nowadays. There is a reason corruption is so rampant in third world nations. CULTURE!