Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion

[ZenZu]

The greatest 1v2s in history:
Xebec against Garp/Roger
Shiki against Garp/Bumgoku
BM against Kid/Law
Law against Doffy/Fuji
Law against Blackbeard/Xebec

Law clears your fave 🫵

When will Oda stop nerfing Law? Big Mom shouldn't count here, she had Hawkins interfering with the fight while Kidd and Law had taken damage from the roof. They were nerfed she was buffed.

 

[soupongo]

Rocks vs Garp and Roger felt like a fight that could go either way.

What is this even based on?
Lmfao

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Law against Blackbeard/Xebec

😂 😂

They did better vs Garp

Thats an understatement. They were almost chilling while Garp was down (Shiryu smoking cigar).

 

[Erkan12]

Again I said that Whatever he’s doing is for his agenda… For whatever reason he is supporting Teach’s plan to become a king… He was the one advising teacher about Koby being part of Sword and therefore not being a good enough hostage to blackmail the WG… He seemingly captured Garp so that Teach could have a good hostage to carry out his plan

So yes, some part of Teach’s plan fits whatever it is Kuzan wants… so Kuzan does whatever to ensure Teach’s plan occurs… But the point remains, Kuzan is specifically helping Teach because it fits whatever he already wants… Kuzan isn’t sacrificing anything here… he already wants this to happen for some reason

Therefore the question is, what happens when what Kuzan wants is no longer in line with what Teach wants… Maybe you think this will never happen, that somehow everything Teach wants will be exactly what Kuzan wants… I doubt it

Oda said what Kuzan wants; he wants to ''live freely'' thats why he joined BB Pirates.

 

[Shiroyru]

It was one of the nastiest backtracks of all time.

What was the agenda?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Why not?

I don´t even understand some of the arguments you people make lmfao. ¨Loki can´t join because he is stronger then Sanji and Zoro¨
which means what exactly?

It means not invalidating the Wings of the Pirate King lol

 

[park_min young]

When will Oda stop nerfing Law? Big Mom shouldn't count here, she had Hawkins interfering with the fight while Kidd and Law had taken damage from the roof. They were nerfed she was buffed.

You have a point, she didn’t fight clean 1v2s like Law

 

[GeneralP123]

What is this even based on?
Lmfao

The fact that it was a legendary fight that changed history, basically gave Roger a free Pirate King ticket, there's no way Garp and Roger just low diff steamrolled Xebec, actually there's no reason for a Top Pirate/ Top Marine team-up unless the opponent is just that strong.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What was the agenda?

Kid and Law = Admirals

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Kid and Law = Admirals

As proven by Kidd getting one shot which is totally what would happen to a top tier like an Admiral...

 

[soupongo]

The fact that it was a legendary fight that changed history, basically gave Roger a free Pirate King ticket, there's no way Garp and Roger just low diff steamrolled Xebec, actually there's no reason for a Top Pirate/ Top Marine team-up unless the opponent is just that strong.

It changed history because it led to Rocks dying. Nothing has been said about the difficulty or even the fight itself.

The pirate marine team up happened because the *crew* was strong. Not because of Rocks´s own individual strength

 

[SakazOuki]

What was the agenda?

Don't act like you werent part of it

 

[soupongo]

It means not invalidating the Wings of the Pirate King lol

It´s almost like ¨Wings of the pirate king¨ was never a term exclusively about strength

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I went from only having like 8 posts on the thread, to almost 40 purely over nakama wars
@Sir Yasheen

 

[Hamlette]

It means not invalidating the Wings of the Pirate King lol

This is the Yamato debacle all over again. When will people realize that Oda does this to stir discussion and interest within his fandom. This man Oda had people getting Yamato tats because they were that sure she was joining. Now all they're getting are second and third degree burns from a Pico laser.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I went from only having like 8 posts on the thread, to almost 40 purely over nakama wars
@Sir Yasheen

The fact that people think oda tripling down on the wings in one arc would get the message across

 

[GeneralP123]

It changed history because it led to Rocks dying. Nothing has been said about the difficulty or even the fight itself.

The pirate marine team up happened because the *crew* was strong. Not because of Rocks´s own individual strength

I disagree, the crew took the chance to leave him on his own during the God Valley incident, yet Roger and Garp still chose to tag team him.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

It´s almost like ¨Wings of the pirate king¨ was never a term exclusively about strength

So the two strongest people on the crew just happen to have the title?

Which was also the same for Roger

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It´s almost like ¨Wings of the pirate king¨ was never a term exclusively about strength

It was literally used as such like two chapters ago?

 

[soupongo]

I disagree, the crew took the chance to leave him on his own during the God Valley incident, yet Roger and Garp still chose to tag team him.

It has literally never been said the entire crew abandoned Rocks. Just that some infighting existed.

This, like any conversation about God Valley in the past 10 years or whatever,is mostly just your own headcanon