Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion

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gz89

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Sir Yasheen said:
Don’t give up on Cross Guild
Rox’ first three parallel the three captains under Buggy
Whitebeard -> Mihawk
Shiki -> Crocodile
Stussy -> Alvida

The janitor will never have this aura
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Not only the janitor, almost all his crewmembers are auraless.

Teach might absorb Imu and abandon his crew at the end or something similar.
 
Doggo

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Talent is something you make bloom.
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Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier said:
If they have a sword and a serious aura then it's highly unlikely tbh
Lightning can always strike but I don't recall ever seeing Sanji have a genuine fight with a swordsman come to think of it (even though King's not a pure swordsman but ykwim).
Anyway Oda retconned King a lot anyway. He was clearly a Marco opponent but got changed so he could fight Zoro instead.
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Queen had swords but they weren't his main thing.
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Oda didn't retcon shit.
He just lazely switched things around. Marco was always there as a stall. The "stars take the stage" chapter clearly indicate that.
He needed someone to stall these 2 while he did the rooftop and black maria things.
 
MarineHQ

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Chrono said:
Nah but how can yall even type on this forum after Rookie Rocks neg diffed an Admiral. The Nami in his crew is worth enough to become a Fleet Admiral. His RHM at old age low diffed the strongest admiral ever.

Like theirs no more Admiral agenda. Theyre all frauds/bums
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You have to do at least 3 years of OP content to read before you can talk about the Admiral agenda. You have missed a lot.

The Admiral fandom has been the only fandom upholding the Blackbeard hype while the Yonkou dropped him off and slandered him. You're not even informed about the current state of agenda wars.

Blackbeard and everything regarding him including Rocks now has been claimed by us. Ask @Blackbeard to get some more insight.
 
Malick the last Light

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Rumble said:
Hard disagree.

Just look at the most powerful from North Blue besides Sanji:
  • Akainu
  • Basil Hawkins
  • Benn Beckman
  • Karasu
  • Kizaru
  • Law
  • Oars
  • Pizzaro
  • Tsuru
  • Vergo
  • Vista
  • Who's Who
  • X Drake
As far as we know, none of these individuals have powerful lineages or the benefit of training under a top tier.

You could count Doflamingo too, since his parents weren't fighters.

Again, that's just North Blue. There's plenty more.



Akainu is from the trenches. It's probably a central component to his being a slave to fascist ideology.

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"Akainu is from the trenches" my man, everybody and their mom is "from the trenches" in One Piece okay?

Like legit, people keep posting that Kid Akainu picture as if it means he is some sort of anomaly for having a difficulty childhood or some shit and that it guarantees he 100% worked for everything he got and he has no "lineage" factor or other buffs.

Like, to go through you list?

  • Akainu
  • Benn Beckman
  • Karasu
  • Kizaru
  • Law
  • Oars
  • Pizzaro
  • Tsuru
  • Vergo
  • Vista
  • Who's Who
  • X Drake
The people you highlighted are arguably the only ones from that damn sea you could even describe as "strong" this late in the game.

Not every character under the sun is gonna be somebody important enough for a destiny/lineage buff sure, but those who ARE even CLOSE to being powerful enough for the end game? You bet your ass they are gonna have one of these three at least:

Incredibly strong Teacher
Incredibly Strong Lineage
Direct reincarnation/parallel to the Void Century and the First World


Law? 100% has a Void Century parallel of some kind. Somebody used his fruit before him. He is a D. for fucks sake, the way Oda be hyping that up anybody with a D in their name? I guarantee will have a parallel/ancestor of some kind they descend from.

Vista? Probably descended from some Flower sword style user in the Void Century

Akainu? Trained in all likelihood by Tsuru, who was the HER of her generation and portrayed alongside Sengoku and Garp. Odas "fuck the females" debuff might not allow her to have a much grander role, but chances are she too had somebody who she either descneds from or was trained by in return.

Like, I can do this all day. One Piece fans for some reason have this weird idea that in between the Void Century and Rogers era literally everybody was fodder. There were roughly 40 goddamn generations in 800 years minimum. Everybody on that list? Can EASILY have a Top Tier ancestor they descnd from if Oda wants them to pop-up.

Benn Beckman? Joyboy probably had Balthasar Beckman, foudner of the Beckman dynasty in his crew as his sniper etc

My main point was not even that EVERYBODY has some sort of connection, just that if you are at the VERY top of the verse? I think Oda has made it pretty clear you will NOT reach that position without nepotism / destiny backing you up.

I do not mean everybody under the sun will get this treatment, I do not expect Momonga or some guy like freaking Vergo to have an ancestor/OP trainer or anything, but people like Akainu?

0% chance he wont have anybody who helped him become who he is be it a strong ancestor, Tsuru / some others training him etc. The tippy top of the verse in One Piece? Is not something you reach on your own. Just "being from the trenches" does not mean shit. Training "real hard" on its own doesn't either.

If you dont got OP trainers, OP genetics, or destiny? Your ass is NOT breaking that glass ceiling of the Top of Top tiers. It aint happening.
 
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