Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion
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Is Madara even that much better of a character then Kaguya? I know people really hate that she came out of nowhere, is implied to be an alien etc,,,,
But if you ignore that, I don´t see a big difference in characterization. Neither really have a good connection to the Mc´s or anyone alive really, and both just have kind of meh goals. As poorly done Obito was at times, at least he had a pretty valid connection to the Mc´s(Killed Narutos parents, was behind the nine tails attack, helped kill the Uchiha, knew itachi, manipulated Sasuke, was on a team with Kakashi, secretly was running the mist, ran the Akatsuki, helped turn Nagato evil). I make fun of him for taking L´s and the Rin thing, but at least the Rin thing begins to explain why he was interested in the genjutsu world
Madara just doesn´t? It´s vaguely implied he dislikes war, and the inherent lack of fairness of reality, but his actions really seem to be the opposite. Dude is clearly enjoying himself killing and humiliating people. And what would his genjutsu world even be like? It just feels like a random plan he decided to work on,which is basically what happened in canon with Zetsu or whatever. Kishi also doesn´t really lean into a creepy factor or making him intelligent like part 1 Orochimaru and Itachi. He´s a ¨All according to plan¨ type villain, but his plan barely even worked, and relied on too many unlikely factors. And the Hashirama obsession was maybe like a cool thing at first, but got pathetic really quick...
@Roo @MarineHQ @TheAncientCenturion @EmperorKinyagi
Is Madara even that much better of a character then Kaguya? I know people really hate that she came out of nowhere, is implied to be an alien etc,,,,
But if you ignore that, I don´t see a big difference in characterization. Neither really have a good connection to the Mc´s or anyone alive really, and both just have kind of meh goals. As poorly done Obito was at times, at least he had a pretty valid connection to the Mc´s(Killed Narutos parents, was behind the nine tails attack, helped kill the Uchiha, knew itachi, manipulated Sasuke, was on a team with Kakashi, secretly was running the mist, ran the Akatsuki, helped turn Nagato evil). I make fun of him for taking L´s and the Rin thing, but at least the Rin thing begins to explain why he was interested in the genjutsu world
Madara just doesn´t? It´s vaguely implied he dislikes war, and the inherent lack of fairness of reality, but his actions really seem to be the opposite. Dude is clearly enjoying himself killing and humiliating people. And what would his genjutsu world even be like? It just feels like a random plan he decided to work on,which is basically what happened in canon with Zetsu or whatever. Kishi also doesn´t really lean into a creepy factor or making him intelligent like part 1 Orochimaru and Itachi. He´s a ¨All according to plan¨ type villain, but his plan barely even worked, and relied on too many unlikely factors. And the Hashirama obsession was maybe like a cool thing at first, but got pathetic really quick...
Exactly I don't like this at all. He looks awful to me. Heinous design. Guess Oda used everything on Loki lmao.
First we get attack of the Shanks twins/clones, now this. Post Egghead too funnily enough. The clone piece, the clone piece is real. Oh wait nvm Oda wants take the most cringy soap opera tier writing clichés instead, RIP.
First we get attack of the Shanks twins/clones, now this. Post Egghead too funnily enough. The clone piece, the clone piece is real. Oh wait nvm Oda wants take the most cringy soap opera tier writing clichés instead, RIP.
I think it's intentional. Oda has been building up Elbaf for years and is clearly really excited to draw it, and he's trying to make it as memorable as possible(also why he revealed Shamrock and introduced Loki who seems built to be a fan favorite). I also think he learned from his mistakes in the Oden and Kuma flashback, at least a bit
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