If only those programmes could understand what you read for you, too.
Q1: Jinbe said Gaban is Rayleigh counterpart what does that mean?
When Jinbe says that
Scopper Gaban is
Rayleigh’s counterpart, he likely means that
Gaban held a role in the Roger Pirates similar to Rayleigh’s, acting as a high-ranking and trusted crew member close to Gol D. Roger.
Here’s a breakdown of what that could imply:
🔹 1. Crew Hierarchy Equivalent
Rayleigh was the
First Mate or
Vice-Captain of the Roger Pirates — the right-hand man to Gol D. Roger. Saying Gaban is Rayleigh’s "counterpart" suggests:
- Gaban may have been the left-hand man, or second strongest after Rayleigh.
- He likely played a crucial leadership role, perhaps commanding the crew alongside Rayleigh.
- It implies a duo dynamic, where Rayleigh and Gaban were the two top officers under Roger.
🔹 2. Balance of Strength or Role
In many pirate crews in
One Piece, you see duos or trios of top commanders (like Katakuri/Smoothie/Cracker for Big Mom, or King/Queen for Kaido). Gaban may have been:
- Rayleigh’s peer in strength or authority.
- Handling different responsibilities, e.g., Rayleigh as the strategist or negotiator, Gaban as the combat specialist or enforcer.
🔹 3. Narrative Foil or Parallel
The term "counterpart" can also mean someone who reflects or complements another:
- Gaban might have been similar to Rayleigh but with a different personality or approach.
- If Rayleigh was calm and wise, Gaban might have been more fiery or action-oriented.
🧠 Conclusion:
When Jinbe refers to Gaban as Rayleigh’s counterpart, he’s pointing out that
Gaban was another key leader in the Roger Pirates, standing side-by-side with Rayleigh in importance, even if not as well-known. It elevates Gaban's status, implying he’s a
legendary figure in his own right.
Let me know if you want a comparison with other pirate crews or more on Gaban’s few appearances.
Q2: Does that mean they are equal in strength?
Not necessarily.
When Jinbe says
Scopper Gaban is
Rayleigh’s counterpart, it doesn’t strictly mean they are
equal in strength — but rather, they were
comparable in rank or importance within the crew.
Here’s a clearer breakdown:
🔸 1. Counterpart ≠ Equal Power
The word “counterpart” can imply:
- Same role or tier, but not identical abilities.
- They operated on a similar level of authority or trust under Roger.
But it
doesn’t confirm that Gaban and Rayleigh were
equals in combat.
🔸 2. Rayleigh’s Portrayal Is Much Stronger So Far
- Rayleigh is hyped as the "Dark King", the vice-captain, and someone who could fight Kizaru in his old age.
- Gaban, by contrast, has almost no feats, only brief appearances in flashbacks and no post-Roger scenes yet.
So while Gaban might have been
close to Rayleigh in rank, the story so far heavily favors
Rayleigh in strength portrayal.
🔸 3. Possible Power Gap Despite Role Similarity
In many One Piece crews, high-ranking officers can have:
- Similar authority, but
- Different levels of combat power.
Example:
- Katakuri and Smoothie are both Sweet Commanders in Big Mom’s crew.
- But Katakuri is clearly stronger and more central.
The same could be true of Rayleigh and Gaban.
✅ Final Answer:
No, being Rayleigh’s counterpart does not automatically mean Gaban is equal in strength.
It means Gaban was one of the top officers, likely second or third strongest, and an essential part of Roger’s inner circle — but Rayleigh is still portrayed as the strongest under Roger.
Let me know if you'd like a power tier list for the Roger Pirates based on current info!
Q3: So Rayleigh can be significantly stronger than Gaban even though Gaban is Rayleigh counterpart?
Yes —
Rayleigh can absolutely be significantly stronger than Gaban, even if Gaban is called his "counterpart."
🔎 Why? Let’s clarify what "counterpart" really implies in this context:
It means Gaban held a similar role or was part of the same level of leadership, not necessarily that they were equal in power.
✅ Examples in One Piece:
🔹 Kaido’s Calamities:
- King, Queen, and Jack are all "All-Stars" — same rank.
- But King is much stronger than Queen or Jack. Yet they’re all still Kaido’s “top men.”
🔹 Big Mom’s Sweet Commanders:
- Katakuri, Smoothie, and Cracker are all Sweet Commanders.
- Katakuri is vastly stronger and more important narratively than the others.
✅ So in Roger’s crew:
- Rayleigh = Vice-Captain (confirmed), Haki master, can fight Kizaru.
- Gaban = high-ranking officer, possibly third strongest after Roger and Rayleigh.
- Gaban being his "counterpart" may just mean:
- He was the #3, commanding the crew alongside Rayleigh.
- Possibly took on different responsibilities (e.g., combat leader, logistics, scout).
- Still a legendary fighter, just not at Rayleigh’s top-tier level.
🔥 Conclusion:
Yes — even though Gaban is Rayleigh’s counterpart, Rayleigh can be — and likely is — much stronger.
Think of them as Batman and Robin, Zoro and Sanji, or Katakuri and Cracker — close in importance, but not in sheer power.
Let me know if you want a mock-up of Roger Pirate power tiers!
I don't know man I told ChatGPT what Jinbe said about Gaban and Rayleigh it still gave the same answer.
