Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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Legendary DF taken from Birka
Legendary DF taken from CP-9 (Enies Lobby)
Legendary DF taken from WB Pirates
Legendary DF taken from God's Valley

What happened to these Four? Gone,
And who participated in their Downfall/End? The one who ate the DF,
(Enel Destroyed Birka himself, Luffy Invaded Enies Lobby/CP-9 HQ which resulted in it's Destruction, BB Invaded WB Territory & technically ended that Crew, Kaidou participated in God's Valley Battle Royale which Ended in it's Destruction)

So regardless of whoever ate Elbaph's DF if He wants to Destroy it or not, it's clear imo that He doesn't mind to see it "Gone", He is Someone who doesn't care about the Giants, so imo it's not Loki, it's not Blackbeard (Because if He is following in Xebec's Footsteps, then Elbaph is Important to him), it's not Luffy and it's also not Imu (or whoever is Loyal to him) because He wants to Recruit those Giants & keep Elbaph,

The one who took Elbaph's DF is supposed to represent Elbaph's Main Enemy (Not Imu), He is Loki's Nemesis, if We follow Norse Mythology, Loki's Rival is Heimdall, who has the Horn that's gonna trigger Ragnarok, it also reminds me of the Horn Oda Introduced in his Ryuma One-Shot, a Horn capable of Summoning Dragons, also since this Villain is someone who is gonna Threaten the Island, then it makes sense that He is based on what Threatens World Tree in Norse Mythology, and that is Nidhogg (Which was indeed shown on Mural), also if Loki does indeed end up as that Snake, then it's another reason why this Villain is definitely Nidhogg,

And since this DF is Important to take down Holy Land, then whoever took it wanted to Use it to unleash Dragons on Mary Geoise, which might be why Imu said that Holy Land is in a Sea of Fire right now, and why He needs a Counter Army,

Imo Elbaph's DF is related to Nidhogg or Controlling/Summoning Dragons ... etc
And the One who took it, i believe it's Shamrock,
Loki could possibly 'destroys' Elbaph to interfere Imu's plan of ruling Elbaph. In the of the arc, Loki will bring it back somehow with his DF ability.
 
@Dragon777
I generally respect your opinions, do you think Koby can surpass prime Garp during the run of the actual manga(aka, no sequal or epilogue stuff)? If so, how do you think he can prove it?
Thank you, first and foremost.

On the topic, I didn't think he would have, but after Hachinosu and this page:


I think Oda wants to make him as strong as he can during the actual plot of the manga and not in some epilogue EoS. Also, after having ruined and basically off-screened Smoker to oblivion, Koby is the only new-gen marine he can really use for this. Fuji is another "good" Marine like Koby, but it's not really new gen, even though he was new in our eyes.

About how, there are three options:

1) he'll fight Luffy sooner or later. He said back in W7 and repeated it very recently:


2) As much as some wouldn't like this, Luffy is among the other things the new Roger too and Koby is the new Garp... and Teach the new Xebec. With Oda, loving parallels and all, as all Japanese do, there is a very good probability we are going to have a God Valley 2.0 in which Luffy and Koby fight BB and his BBP as Roger and Garp did with Xebec and the Rocks.

Not to mention, this is not just for the sake of parallels: Koby actually has a deep connection with the BB's plot already. Koby was kidnapped by him (kind of), he was rescued by Garp, his mentor, Garp went down trying to save him, he unlocked his "legacy" in Hachinsou, etc.

Koby is deeply connected to BB even now, even taking the GV's parallel away.

3) Koby, being a new-gen good marine and all, and the most important one given that pic I posted above, I think it's almost a guaranteed pick against the WG. I think there are high chances he's fighting a Gorosei (+ Shamrock) along with Zoro, Sanji and Sabo.

So, those 3, or some of those 3, even though at least 2 are sure for me, are all ways in which Oda can showcase Koby being prime Garp's level or even above prime Garp.
 
Thank you, first and foremost.

On the topic, I didn't think he would have, but after Hachinosu and this page:


I think Oda wants to make him as strong as he can during the actual plot of the manga and not in some epilogue EoS. Also, after having ruined and basically off-screened Smoker to oblivion, Koby is the only new-gen marine he can really use for this. Fuji is another "good" Marine like Koby, but it's not really new gen, even though he was new in our eyes.

About how, there are three options:

1) he'll fight Luffy sooner or later. He said back in W7 and repeated it very recently:


2) As much as some wouldn't like this, Luffy is among the other things the new Roger too and Koby is the new Garp... and Teach the new Xebec. With Oda, loving parallels and all, as all Japanese do, there is a very good probability we are going to have a God Valley 2.0 in which Luffy and Koby fight BB and his BBP as Roger and Garp did with Xebec and the Rocks.

Not to mention, this is not just for the sake of parallels: Koby actually has a deep connection with the BB's plot already. Koby was kidnapped by him (kind of), he was rescued by Garp, his mentor, Garp went down trying to save him, he unlocked his "legacy" in Hachinsou, etc.

Koby is deeply connected to BB even now, even taking the GV's parallel away.

3) Koby, being a new-gen good marine and all, and the most important one given that pic I posted above, I think it's almost a guaranteed pick against the WG. I think there are high chances he's fighting a Gorosei (+ Shamrock) along with Zoro, Sanji and Sabo.

So, those 3, or some of those 3, even though at least 2 are sure for me, are all ways in which Oda can showcase Koby being prime Garp's level or even above prime Garp.
Gababababababaaaaaaaaaaaa Cobyeeeeee!
 
Thank you, first and foremost.

On the topic, I didn't think he would have, but after Hachinosu and this page:


I think Oda wants to make him as strong as he can during the actual plot of the manga and not in some epilogue EoS. Also, after having ruined and basically off-screened Smoker to oblivion, Koby is the only new-gen marine he can really use for this. Fuji is another "good" Marine like Koby, but it's not really new gen, even though he was new in our eyes.

About how, there are three options:

1) he'll fight Luffy sooner or later. He said back in W7 and repeated it very recently:


2) As much as some wouldn't like this, Luffy is among the other things the new Roger too and Koby is the new Garp... and Teach the new Xebec. With Oda, loving parallels and all, as all Japanese do, there is a very good probability we are going to have a God Valley 2.0 in which Luffy and Koby fight BB and his BBP as Roger and Garp did with Xebec and the Rocks.

Not to mention, this is not just for the sake of parallels: Koby actually has a deep connection with the BB's plot already. Koby was kidnapped by him (kind of), he was rescued by Garp, his mentor, Garp went down trying to save him, he unlocked his "legacy" in Hachinsou, etc.

Koby is deeply connected to BB even now, even taking the GV's parallel away.

3) Koby, being a new-gen good marine and all, and the most important one given that pic I posted above, I think it's almost a guaranteed pick against the WG. I think there are high chances he's fighting a Gorosei (+ Shamrock) along with Zoro, Sanji and Sabo.

So, those 3, or some of those 3, even though at least 2 are sure for me, are all ways in which Oda can showcase Koby being prime Garp's level or even above prime Garp.
And then Coby will go around the world like Superman and catch tons of bad pirates and be a hero ( after Imu gets neg diffed by Nika, not Luffy but Nika )
 
@Dragon777
I generally respect your opinions, do you think Koby can surpass prime Garp during the run of the actual manga(aka, no sequal or epilogue stuff)? If so, how do you think he can prove it?
Him beating Kuzan and fighting a gorosei is possible. New gen leaders/main characters: Zoro, Law, Sabo, Coby, Sanji, Kid. These guys can fight the gorosei and Shamrock. Zoro, Law and Sanji are guaranteed imo, Law is a D clan so he’s even more of a safe pick.
 
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